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Old Jan 1, 2012 | 03:31 PM
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correct. some parts for the original non wastgated units made back in the mid 80's are getting scarce.
 
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Old Jan 1, 2012 | 07:34 PM
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i was kind of supprised actually, when i bought my kit (its used) it was missing two small casting support brackets. called them up and ordered the parts i needed.
 
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Old Jan 1, 2012 | 08:01 PM
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Do you have to 86 the air conditioner to make room for the turbo? What kyind of power gain do you get with the turbo?
 
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Old Jan 1, 2012 | 08:50 PM
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The A/C stays and all flavors claim 50% power increase, once you get one you won't want another NA again.
 
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Old Jan 1, 2012 | 11:47 PM
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Do you have to 86 the air conditioner to make room for the turbo? What kyind of power gain do you get with the turbo?
Take a look at the link I posted earlier, it will show you the install. Below is pic with Banks Sidewinder wastegated turbo system. About all the A/C is concerned, is you bend the a/c hard line on the compressor a little to clear the new air cleaner. Power at the wheels is comparable to a stock 99 stroke.

 
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Old Jan 2, 2012 | 12:10 AM
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Wow I like it did you take that picture in 87 on the showroom floor or do you live in a world without mud I am impressed. It looks pretty straight forward to install. My engine has just under 200k on it should I worry about accelerated wear on the engine?
 
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Old Jan 2, 2012 | 12:25 AM
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you should be ok aslong as you have a pyro and you donjt over boost. ive git abiut 130k on mine
 
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Old Jan 2, 2012 | 02:22 AM
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Wow I like it did you take that picture in 87 on the showroom floor or do you live in a world without mud I am impressed. It looks pretty straight forward to install. My engine has just under 200k on it should I worry about accelerated wear on the engine?
According to Banks, adding air makes the engine run cooler, lower EGT's lower valve and piston ring temps, and increased engine life. WIN. If you don't mess with the wastegate to jack up the boost above factory settings, the stock head bolts are fine according to Banks. I have a used unit awaiting installation which will happen when I tear it down for repairs from low oil. Read the installation manual linked in this thread and check out the section on "operating characteristics", which pretty much tells you that there are no down sides to turbocharging your engine.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2012 | 02:25 AM
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Can you control the amount of boost the turbo puts out? Sorry for all the questions im not too familiar with turbo systems but I am interested.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2012 | 03:02 AM
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Can you control the amount of boost the turbo puts out? Sorry for all the questions im not too familiar with turbo systems but I am interested.
It can be done (search threads on increasing boost) but Banks tells you not to. I wouldn't go there unless you are putting in studs, ceramic coated pistons and the like. The turbos are pre-set at the factory. They may be a bit conservative for emissions compliance, but those settings also keep you from ruining your engine with pressures it can't handle. You may get conflicting opinions on this, but I think Banks did a pretty good job of setting these up to match our stock built engines. Really impressive power gains (see test results at the Banks website) without having to put in beefed-up head gaskets or special components.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2012 | 07:17 AM
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i have not wastegated unit on my 88.
put it on at 1800 miles. the truck now has 493,000 miles on it and the engine has never been apart. it also still runs just as good as it did 23 years ago, except for needing injectors.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2012 | 10:09 AM
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Turbo charging will actually lower your EGT's, (providing you have your fuel set right) so in theory that will lead to cooler internal temps in the head. makeing things last longer. we all know heat kills things. as long as your not trying to push to much pressure, and have your fuel set right, you'll be golden
 
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Old Jan 3, 2012 | 03:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Country_boy_2007
Turbo charging will actually lower your EGT's, (providing you have your fuel set right) so in theory that will lead to cooler internal temps in the head. makeing things last longer. we all know heat kills things. as long as your not trying to push to much pressure, and have your fuel set right, you'll be golden
Golden is correct. $$ is the only reason to ~not turbocharge, unless you hate torque and horsepower and like using a little extra fuel
 
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Old Jan 3, 2012 | 03:21 AM
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Golden is correct. $$ is the only reason to ~not turbocharge, unless you hate torque and horsepower and like using a little extra fuel
Boy do I! I cant stand horsepower and I love high fuel prices!
 
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Old Jan 3, 2012 | 09:25 AM
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I don't plan on doing head studs with my install. I also don't plan on going over 12lbs of boost, so I should be OK. I paid $400 for my 2nd gen Banks kit that is complete, including the sticker, except for the exhaust after the down pipe. I might just go from the DP into a straight 4" exiting after the cab.
 
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