fuel additives
Posting Guru
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 2,392
Likes: 1
From: Green Lane, Pa.
All the big name gas/ diesel stations usually don't sell American Fuel ( or blend it with overseas fuel) I actively search for fueling stations that sell only American fuel to help with the US economy, In Louisiana they have a bunch of stations that sell American fuel.
I think Murphy USA sells only American fuel ( walmart )
I think Murphy USA sells only American fuel ( walmart )
Are you sure your not referring to companies that sell American fuel made from American crude? The reason diesel is so high right now is the refineries are exporting large quantities of it over seas according to their reports.
Like A Boss!
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 257
Likes: 0
From: Tee Mamou, La
Yes i was referring to American fuel from American crude, We are exporting a lot of our oil overseas, but not all stations are using American fuel refined from US crude oil, some companies use refineries in other countries with that countries crude oil due to cheaper cost and then ship their fuel here. Also some of the crude oil being exported from our country are being refined in other countries and sent back to the US in its refined state (Gas, Kerosine, Diesel, Motor Oil) due to cheaper labor cost and less government restrictions.
Logistics Pro
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 3,787
Likes: 102
From: Georgia
I use DK with EVERY fill up. I guess I would listen to the gentleman with 40 years of diesel experience since I only have about 10. And, if I knew where a premium diesel station was, I would use it. But, I fill up at home maybe 5 or 6 times a year. The rest of the time I'm somewhere, mostly somewhere I've never been before and when it's time to fuel up it's time to fuel up. So, I pretty much have to take whatever Billy Bobs Gas station, resturant and good time dancing girls emporium has in the tank. Yes, even if it's bio which even the EPA admits causes oil dillution in DPF equipped diesels (which mine is not). So, I would say that unless you have a very tight quality control on your fuel source the additive will more than pay for itself in the long term. At least it has for me.
Posting Guru
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 2,392
Likes: 1
From: Green Lane, Pa.
The majority of Americas imported oil comes from our neighbors, Canada. Refineries on the east coast where I live refine their crude from oil that comes from the north Atlantic which sells for around $8 per barrel more then OPEC or Texas crude.
Like A Boss!
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 257
Likes: 0
From: Tee Mamou, La
I think the price difference for N Atlantic is due to harsh sea conditions(weather), which creates longer drilling times and also the production platforms have to be built to higher standards to withstand these conditions therefore driving cost up a bit more. I work in the gulf of Mexico where the seas are no where near as bad as in the N Atlantic. Most of the oil from Canada is very thick ( more tar compounds ) which is harder to refine. Thats my reasoning on why the cost of fuel in northern states are usually higher than us down south. ( Had this discussion with the wife shes from Hershey, Pa and was wondering the price difference)
Like A Boss!
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 257
Likes: 0
From: Tee Mamou, La
Sorry about the little detour from the thread 
, Back on topic I use Power Service Diesel Kleen due to the fact its extremely easy to find, cheap, and makes my truck run better (seems to have a bit more power and smooth running characteristics). There are many different additives companies, but be careful some can actually harm your truck.
, Back on topic I use Power Service Diesel Kleen due to the fact its extremely easy to find, cheap, and makes my truck run better (seems to have a bit more power and smooth running characteristics). There are many different additives companies, but be careful some can actually harm your truck.
Logistics Pro
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 3,787
Likes: 102
From: Georgia
The primary reason to use an additive is to lubricate the high pressure fuel pump, in case you get fuel that hasn't had the lubricity additive put in by the distributor. ULSD without additives lacks the lubricity needed to keep the HPFP from wearing. All brands of diesel and gasoline are shipped in the same pipelines to fuel terminals. The additives are put in at the terminal when the tanker trucks are filled, so it's possible the additives could get left out. A lubricity additive protects the pump by forming a slippery film on the metal surfaces.
Second consideration is avoiding a fuel additive that contains emulsifiers or alcohols. These will emulsify water in the fuel and allow the water to get past the fuel filters and destroy the HPFP. The cost is around $10k to replace the HPFP, and Ford will not cover it under warranty if there's evidence of water in the fuel. I would be careful of an additive that claims to "disperse" water. You want one that de-emulsifies water.
I work as a chemist, and I'm bothered that there's very little test data available to back up the claims of the fuel additive manufacturers. It's hard to know if what you put in the tank is helping or not.
Second consideration is avoiding a fuel additive that contains emulsifiers or alcohols. These will emulsify water in the fuel and allow the water to get past the fuel filters and destroy the HPFP. The cost is around $10k to replace the HPFP, and Ford will not cover it under warranty if there's evidence of water in the fuel. I would be careful of an additive that claims to "disperse" water. You want one that de-emulsifies water.
I work as a chemist, and I'm bothered that there's very little test data available to back up the claims of the fuel additive manufacturers. It's hard to know if what you put in the tank is helping or not.
Like A Boss!
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 257
Likes: 0
From: Tee Mamou, La
OK, help this country boy out please. emulsifiers will help the droplets of water pass through fuel filters. Demulsifiers will help cause the droplets of water to be rejected by the fuel filters. Is that close???? Or at least close enough??? OOOOPS, never mind I just re-read your post. Sorry bout that.
FTE Stories
Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make
Brett Foote
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!
Michael S. Palmer
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home
Verdad Gallardo
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!
Joe Kucinski
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?
Brett Foote
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!
Michael S. Palmer
10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!
Joe Kucinski
Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026
Brett Foote
5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time
Joe Kucinski
Junior User
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 91
Likes: 0
OK, help this country boy out please. emulsifiers will help the droplets of water pass through fuel filters. Demulsifiers will help cause the droplets of water to be rejected by the fuel filters. Is that close???? Or at least close enough??? OOOOPS, never mind I just re-read your post. Sorry bout that.
BTW biodiesel is a good lubricant, but can also act as an emulsifier.
There is an excellent publication written by Chevron that talks about fuel quality, ULSD, additives, lubricity, and emulsifiers. It's easy to find by Googling "Chevron diesel fuels technical review."
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
PAVEMENTMAN
1999 - 2003 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel
3
Nov 22, 2007 09:56 AM
