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Old Dec 25, 2011 | 05:32 AM
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better power steering pump?

I got a 86 4.9l bronco I use for off roading and my winter driver. It was stock height I had put 33s on it and I think this is when it started with the bigger tires, but my power steering belt keeps popping off, it is a single 1/4in wide v ribbed belt. I had recently installed a 6in sispension lift on it and I want to know is their a better power steering pump I can put on their?

I am looking at putting maybe 36s on their this spring, I know the ifs can't go too big with tires, I did just find out their was a slot for a breaker bar on the bracket to tighten the tension, the belt did stay on a lot longer than before, maybe the bolt just loosed up, I can check that out, maybe put a longer bolt with a jam nut. I know when their isn't enough tension on the belt usually when I turn the wheel and the pump squeeks, I usually get the rm up and it doesn't squee.

Just wondering if u guys know any good pump to use.
 
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Old Dec 25, 2011 | 10:26 AM
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There is the fabled Saginaw pump. I wish I knew the part # so I could do it myself. However have you thought about swapping up to a Serpentine system? That should really help you out, plus it shouldn't be too pricey with junkyard parts.
 
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Old Dec 25, 2011 | 10:29 AM
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Saginaw P/S pump: 1975/91 Econoline and 1972/79 Ford/Mercury/Lincoln Passenger Cars with Hydro-Boost.
 
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Old Dec 25, 2011 | 11:53 AM
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I think this is the Saginaw powersteering pump.

Buy Fenco Power Steering Pump SP17075 at Advance Auto Parts

You may have to find a different bracket to bolt it on to your engine, but I'm not sure about that.
 
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Old Dec 25, 2011 | 12:51 PM
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The bracket from a 90's E-series with the same angine as yours should work (regarding the V-8 models, i'm not sure about the I6).
 
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Old Dec 25, 2011 | 05:15 PM
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I might look into that fenco p/s pump, I don't want to spent too much money switching the whole system over to serpentine belt, I bought this truck cheep and the floor is starting to rot out, I'm doing my best to get my money worth out of it, if I do serpenite then I need to get a new alt, and pulleys. I was thinking if I can get a turn buckle mounted on the stock bracket then I can get t tighter than with the breaker bar.
 
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Old Dec 25, 2011 | 06:02 PM
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Have you tried the "Gator" belts?

Sounds like more of an alignment issue more than anything. No matter how tight a belt is, if it is not lined up it will come off.
 
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Old Dec 25, 2011 | 07:39 PM
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If you can find a van with a 300 the Saginaw pump is pretty much a bolt-in replacement.

The bracket:


And the pump:


You'll need the high pressure line from a van as well.

With a Redhead gear my Bronco almost turns too effortlessly.
 
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Old Dec 27, 2011 | 06:51 AM
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One thing I notice on ur picture is that ur belt wraps around all pulleys? Am I correct?

Mine only wraps around the crank pulley, I might try one that wraps around the water, ant crank pulley. I only have the alt, and power steering pullies so I might be able to try that. I'm thinking I didn't tighten the bolts good enough, so this time I torqued the bolts to 70ft lbs, hopefully this works for now, I might look for the e150 pumps I heard the do turn easier.
 
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One thing I notice on ur picture is that ur belt wraps around all pulleys? Am I correct?
Nope, he has a couple belts. A gator back is a "ribbed" belt instead of the traditional strip of grooved rubber.


Also, (Warning! crazy question) Does anyone know if I can use an older style bracket (v-belt) for my Power-steering set-up and make it work with a serpentine.....
 
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Old Dec 27, 2011 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Edgethis
Nope, he has a couple belts. A gator back is a "ribbed" belt instead of the traditional strip of grooved rubber.


Also, (Warning! crazy question) Does anyone know if I can use an older style bracket (v-belt) for my Power-steering set-up and make it work with a serpentine.....
Yeah I ment the power starring belt wraps around the water pump and crank pulley. Do you have a part number for that gator back belt, I would like to check it out? And where did u buy it from?

I have noticed my belt has warped a little bit, I doesn't sit flat when I lay it down.
 
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These appear to be the type of belts in the pictures.

Buy Belts and Hoses and other Replacement Parts at Advance Auto Parts

Basically they're inside out of what you'd expect. Ribs on the outside instead of the inside.
 
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i went to check the fluids under the hood before work and i noticed the belt had flipped around in the pulley. so tomorrow i will try and get a new belt and hopefully help solve this problem. the one guy i work with told me when it does this the belt is usually stretched. how much play should be in the belt when i move the bracket? about 1/2in sound about right?
 
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