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Old Dec 18, 2011 | 05:32 PM
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1964 alternator options?

I got my 64 f100 4x4 with a 390 in it I replaced it with a 360 and I need an alternator for it got the 360 out of my 71 crew cab I went to the parts store to pick up an alt and they had several amp outputs to pick from my question is do I need any specific regulators or anything for the different alts? I wanted to get the highest output amp one to use in the 64 and didn't want to have any worries about overloading the wiring and short something out
 
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Old Dec 18, 2011 | 06:59 PM
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Did it have a alt. in it be for? Or is it wired for a genarator?
 
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Old Dec 18, 2011 | 07:21 PM
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The 64 had a altetnator in it when I got it with a 390 in it I believe it has 3 wires goin to the back of the altetnator from the wiring harness
 
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Old Dec 18, 2011 | 07:50 PM
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When I swapped a 302/ AOD into my 64 I went with a GM 1 wire, that eliminated the voltage regulator and all but one wire. No problems in 5 years
 
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Old Dec 18, 2011 | 10:08 PM
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Then the truck has been altered areadt, I beleave the 64 truck would of had a gen. in it new. So it should take what ever you want to go with. IMO But you can check with a auto electercian to be sure
 
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Old Dec 18, 2011 | 10:20 PM
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If your wiring is still fairly stock i would not venture much over 65 amps. The 64 harness may heat up even at those amps as everything travels through the head lights witch/fuse

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Old Dec 18, 2011 | 10:23 PM
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1963 was the first year FoMoCo offered an alternator as standard equipment, but only 1963/64 Thunderbirds came with it. Everything else (and prior years back to 1928) came with generators as standard equipment.

The Leece-Neville alternator was available as an option on 1961/64 trucks.

Beginning model year 1965: All FoMoCo vehicles came standard with an alternator. Excepting some big trucks, it was an Auto-Lite. Motorcaft alternators were introduced in 1973, are the same as 1963/72 Auto-Lites.

1965/72 F100/350: 42, 48, 55 and 60 amp alternators were all that were available, 1973/79's added 65 & 70 ampers. You don't want the 42 or 48 amp.

These same alternators were used in FoMoCo Passenger Cars, Bronco's and Econolines thru 1979, so y'all shouldn't have any problemo finding one. The 55 amp was most commonly installed with V8's.

There are two types of alternator regulators, one can be used in place of the other without any mods. 1963/64 T-Bird, 1965/81 regulators have points (D4TZ-10316-A replaced C3SZ-10316-A).

In 1982, FoMoCo replaced the point type with an solid state electronic regulator (E2PZ-10316-A replaced in 1990 w/FOPZ-10316-A ~ Motorcraft GR-540-B).

This regulator has a flat cover with MOTORCRAFT embossed on the diagonal. Nothing has to be changed to use this puppy, it's plug and play.
 
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Old Dec 18, 2011 | 10:28 PM
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Thanks ND do all the different output alts use the same voltage regulators say I have the 42a and want to swap in the 60a is the only thing I need to change is the alt nothing else?
 
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Thanks ND do all the different output alts use the same voltage regulators say I have the 42a and want to swap in the 60a is the only thing I need to change is the alt nothing else?
C3SZ-10316-A alternator regulator was replaced in 1974 with D4TZ-10316-A. Used thru 1981, then was replaced with the solid state type.

These puppes were used with all Auto-Lite/Motorcaft 42-70 amp alternators.
 
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Always great info ND got another question hope someone can answer I have a battery ground cable that is connected to the frame and the other end I'm not sure where it go's its located right by the starter on the inner frame rail i can't see any place it will go only thing it will reach is to the starter mounting bolts does a ground get hooked there? I've never seen a ground hooked to the starter before just the positive to the starter terminal and grounds from frame to battery and motor to frame any help?
 
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I have a battery ground cable that is connected to the frame and the other end I'm not sure where it go's its located right by the starter on the inner frame rail

I can't see any place it will go only thing it will reach is to the starter mounting bolts does a ground get hooked there?

I've never seen a ground hooked to the starter before just the positive to the starter terminal and grounds from frame to battery and motor to frame any help?
1964/72 F100/250 2WD, 1966 F100 4WD, 1967/72 F100/250 4WD & F350: The ground (negative) cable (34" long) routes from the battery to one of the exhaust manifold bolts.

The starter cable routes from the solenoid to the starter.
 
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Old Dec 19, 2011 | 05:37 AM
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So on a 64 f100 4x4 the battery ground would go on an exhaust manifold bolt? And one ground from the firewall to the motor?
 
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got a new alternator and got it installed hooked up the 3 post wires to the back of the alternator but have this one left where does it go anyone identify where it go's it has 2 wires hooked to the end round connector one bigger gauge wire with a red stripe on it and a smaller black wire they are the harness wrapped with the other wires that go to the back of the alternator i hate rewiring someone elses mess by the way i got it fired up on new years eve pics will come soon





 
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I'll look at mine in the morning to confirm this but I think I only kept the black with yellow strip and cut all the rest.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2012 | 07:34 PM
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I didn't do a 3g altetnator swap I just went to the parts store and got a replacement 60amp alt for a 71 f250 with a 360 as this is what this motor came out of originaly so I don't have just a 1 wire hookup there's 3 or 4 wires I connected to the back of this alt and don't know where the other wire pictured gos
 
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