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Not sure why people are saying to settle for the 3.55 when the 3.31 is an option. If I can get the 3.31 as an option I WANT the 3.31, otherwise they shouldn't have it as an option, and 1-2 mpg is a a difference over 5 years it pays for half the motor! I am not cheap and not looking at every mile I drive and how the gas mileage is but in researching to buy a truck I want to order the most efficient drivetrain and then I will have no regrets about what I should have done later. Also I just found out today that 3.31 is NOT and option if you build a f-250/350 single rear wheel with 20" rims plow prep or not so I am going with the 3.55 electronic locking rear end by no other option. Signed papers today and can't wait for the next two months to be over!
I wouldn't worry about the 3.55 vs. 3.31's. I would have got 3.31's also, but it isn't an option with 20" wheels. Not a real big issue I think. My 2010 had 3.55's, 18" wheels, and a 5 speed trans. My 2011 has 3.55's, 20" wheels, and a 6 speed trans. I think it works out pretty well. As for towing - you won't notice much difference, the 6.7 and 6 speed is a tough combo to beat. If you need to drop a gear going down to 5th isn't a big deal. I drop to 5th in regen cycles and it doesn't make the engine scream, just bumps the RPM's up a bit.
Gonna be Dr. Frankenstein here and bring this one back to life, but I purchased a 2014 F250 with the 3.31 open diff and am hoping that I can drop in a elec locking diff relatively easily. Is this possible? Does someone know of the OEM part number for the ELD option?
I can't tell you how many times I've been stuck with Limited Slip and 4x4. One front tire and one back tire spinning. Just because I backed in to hook up to a trailer and had ice or mud under one of the tires. And the opposite tire was on firm ground,
Take the example of pulling off the shoulder of the road and getting the passenger side tires into a snow bank that a plow has pushed up. One tire on pavement , one tire in snow. At least with the locker, the tire on pavement with catch.
As far as leaving it engaged all the time. I wouldn't, Every slow turn you will hear the tires chirp as you wear off excess rubber. Engage it when you need it. Your tires will last a LOT longer and I suspect your rear end will have less wear and tear
I agree with Paint. I do a lot of double track driving and some times it is sloppy clay mud that packs the tire tread. The ELD + 2x4 and ELD + 4x4 are the combinations to get you through, OR get you really stuck if you don't have your head screwed on right.
I have the ELD with in a 2015 CCSB 250 with 3:31 and 18 inch wheels. I find the electric locker great for getting started without spinning on dirt or muddy roads. I also find it great for backing trailers up hill on those roads. I have a mountain house that has steep narrow roads and getting the truck where you want it the first time without sliding sideways is worth the cost.
Given the options ford has offered over the years. The ELD is the best offering ever. The LSD sucks and isn't work the box it ships in. I'd never pay for the LSD option again in a ford. I'd go open and toss in an Aussie or Spartan lunchbox locker and call it a day.
As someone who has driven cars with LSD since the 60's and with ELD since 2002 (FRONT & REAR). They both have their advantages and disadvantages, the best system out there on the Jeep Rubicon came with a LSD & ELD in the rear axle set and ELD in the front, yes both.
I am not sure who makes the Ford units, I ran ARB ELD's in my Dana 60's. If anyone knows please let us know.
Over the years I have seen times when the ELD got me no where and the LSD got me out and vice versa. For the type of extreme off road I have done across the US from FL to Wa and Maine to Mexico the ELD is my go to units.
That said when I ordered my '15 I chose the LSD for their versatility. I am not taking my SD into the extremes of off road, mostly across unpaved ground that is fairly flat compared to the waterfalls we climb on the extreme side of the off road.
Here are some times when ELD is worth its weight in gold, you won't do this with LSD.
My last F 350 did not have LSD or ELD and it took 4 wd just to get up the hill I live on if the road was wet. I think in the long run you will get more use from LSD than if you had ELD.
I am coming out of this bucket at about a 60 degree angle LSD will leave you stranded here
You have to have every tire pulling to get thru things like this
Given the options ford has offered over the years. The ELD is the best offering ever. The LSD sucks and isn't work the box it ships in. I'd never pay for the LSD option again in a ford. I'd go open and toss in an Aussie or Spartan lunchbox locker and call it a day.
I've heard of Spartan before, but not Aussie. Are they similar designs just different brands? Ultimately looking for the easiest drop in, and relatively cheapest as well (without sacrificing quality), hence why I was searching for the OEM part number for the e-locker.
I've heard of Spartan before, but not Aussie. Are they similar designs just different brands? Ultimately looking for the easiest drop in, and relatively cheapest as well (without sacrificing quality), hence why I was searching for the OEM part number for the e-locker.
They operate the same with the same type parts. The main difference is how the locking pin springs are put in. The aussie locker appears to be a bit easier, but I like that there is no possibility of the springs/pins coming apart in the Spartan as it's all internal. The best part is you don't have to remove the carrier to install where you would with the ELD. The lunchbox would be a better option in an open dif vehicle IMO.
Edit: I have a Spartan unit that I installed on the front axle of my old W250 and I've yet to get her stuck (and I've tried hard)
I can't tell you how many times I've been stuck with Limited Slip and 4x4. One front tire and one back tire spinning. Just because I backed in to hook up to a trailer and had ice or mud under one of the tires. And the opposite tire was on firm ground,
Take the example of pulling off the shoulder of the road and getting the passenger side tires into a snow bank that a plow has pushed up. One tire on pavement , one tire in snow. At least with the locker, the tire on pavement with catch.
As far as leaving it engaged all the time. I wouldn't, Every slow turn you will hear the tires chirp as you wear off excess rubber. Engage it when you need it. Your tires will last a LOT longer and I suspect your rear end will have less wear and tear
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The locker is nice for pulling trailers in a low traction condition. It's saved me a few times because I'm constantly having to pull to the side with a heavy trailer behind me.
I think you will be surprised at how seldom the traction control will allow you to spin just one tire. Unless you are making a hard right turn and punch the throttle hard before you get straightened out, the traction control won't allow much wheel slip at all. In that situation, the locker won't do you much good on dry pavement except maybe snap an axle shaft or disintegrate itself.
I think you will be surprised at how seldom the traction control will allow you to spin just one tire. Unless you are making a hard right turn and punch the throttle hard before you get straightened out, the traction control won't allow much wheel slip at all. In that situation, the locker won't do you much good on dry pavement except maybe snap an axle shaft or disintegrate itself.
Hello there Matt! Great to see you posting around here
11-25-2014, 01:29 PM
