Which engine is a "G" code in 1989?
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Which engine is a "G" code in 1989?
I saw the FTE VIN decoder a while ago but I hadn't got around to using it until tonight. I punched in my VIN and just about freaked out! It says that the 8th digit of the VIN is the engine code "G" which it tells me is a 5.8L
I bought my truck as a 7.5L and have been buying parts for it as such so far without any issues. So I thought maybe someone swapped engines until I tried the LMC Truck VIN decoder and it says that a "G" code engine IS a 7.5l in 1989. So which is it?
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My truck's VIN - 2FTJW36G8KCA33770
A picture of my engine
I bought my truck as a 7.5L and have been buying parts for it as such so far without any issues. So I thought maybe someone swapped engines until I tried the LMC Truck VIN decoder and it says that a "G" code engine IS a 7.5l in 1989. So which is it?
FTE Decoder - VIN Number Decoder offer to you by Ford Trucks Enthusiasts | www.ford-trucks.com
LMC Truck Decoder - LMC Truck Parts - Page 11
My truck's VIN - 2FTJW36G8KCA33770
A picture of my engine
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From: Gilbert, PA
Well you have a 460 now, and according to a CORRECT vin decoder it was built with a 460
https://www.fleet.ford.com/maintenan...vinResults.asp
https://www.fleet.ford.com/maintenan...vinResults.asp
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From: Rapid City, SoDak
Well you have a 460 now, and according to a CORRECT vin decoder it was built with a 460
https://www.fleet.ford.com/maintenan...vinResults.asp
https://www.fleet.ford.com/maintenan...vinResults.asp
Was the 7.5L the only engine of that vintage not to have the big aluminum plenum with the engine size embossed on it?
Is this axle decoder correct in the first place and does it apply to my 1989, my axle code is C5 - Ford Axle Code Chart .: Articles
P.S. Wups, one more question. The trans code is a "W" shouldn't that be a Z? Everything i've read says there wasn't a W code until later years???
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From: Gilbert, PA
Thanks for your knowledge sir. Two more quick questions if I can.
Was the 7.5L the only engine of that vintage not to have the big aluminum plenum with the engine size embossed on it?
Is this axle decoder correct in the first place and does it apply to my 1989, my axle code is C5 - Ford Axle Code Chart .: Articles
P.S. Wups, one more question. The trans code is a "W" shouldn't that be a Z? Everything i've read says there wasn't a W code until later years???
Was the 7.5L the only engine of that vintage not to have the big aluminum plenum with the engine size embossed on it?
Is this axle decoder correct in the first place and does it apply to my 1989, my axle code is C5 - Ford Axle Code Chart .: Articles
P.S. Wups, one more question. The trans code is a "W" shouldn't that be a Z? Everything i've read says there wasn't a W code until later years???
The 460 is a dead giveaway because of the pleninum that faces straight forward no no numbers cast into it(4.9,5.0.5.8).
By my charts a C5 is 4:10 limited slip
As far as trans codes i have nothing
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I saw the FTE VIN decoder a while ago but I hadn't got around to using it until tonight. I punched in my VIN and just about freaked out!
It says that the 8th digit of the VIN is the engine code "G" which it tells me is a 5.8L
Wrong!
I bought my truck as a 7.5L and have been buying parts for it as such so far without any issues.
So I thought maybe someone swapped engines until I tried the LMC Truck VIN decoder and it says that a "G" code engine IS a 7.5l in 1989. So which is it?
My truck's VIN - 2FTJW36G8KCA33770
It says that the 8th digit of the VIN is the engine code "G" which it tells me is a 5.8L
Wrong!I bought my truck as a 7.5L and have been buying parts for it as such so far without any issues.
So I thought maybe someone swapped engines until I tried the LMC Truck VIN decoder and it says that a "G" code engine IS a 7.5l in 1989. So which is it?
My truck's VIN - 2FTJW36G8KCA33770
2FT = Ford Motor Company of Canada Ltd-Complete vehicle.
J = Class H = 9,001-10,000 lbs. GVWR
W36 = F350 4WD Crew Cab Pickup.
G = 460 EFI
8 = Check Digit, FoMoCo use only.
K = 1989.
C = Oakville Ontario Canada Truck Assembly Plant.
A33770 = 1989 Numerical Sequence of Assembly, the trucks specific serial number
G engine codes: 1980/85 351W 2V / 1987/89 460 EFI.
Info source: 1980/89 Ford Light Truck Parts Catalog.
FTE's VIN decoder info was not taken from any Ford Parts Catalogs. I doubt if LMC's was either.
More than likely it was taken from the horribly in-accurate Red Book, a total POS first published in the 1960's by and for Ford nuts, available in book stores.
Not one bit of info in the POS Red Book was taken from any Ford parts catalog.
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From: Rapid City, SoDak
FTE's VIN decoder isn't worth two cents, LMC's isn't any better, as both have multiple errors and omissions.
2FT = Ford Motor Company of Canada Ltd-Complete vehicle.
J = Class H = 9,001-10,000 lbs. GVWR
W36 = F350 4WD Crew Cab Pickup.
G = 460 EFI
8 = Check Digit, FoMoCo use only.
K = 1989.
C = Oakville Ontario Canada Truck Assembly Plant.
A33770 = 1989 Numerical Sequence of Assembly, the trucks specific serial number
G engine codes: 1980/85 351W 2V / 1987/89 460 EFI.
Info source: 1980/89 Ford Light Truck Parts Catalog.
FTE's VIN decoder info was not taken from any Ford Parts Catalogs. I doubt if LMC's was either.
More than likely it was taken from the horribly in-accurate Red Book, a total POS first published in the 1960's by and for Ford nuts, available in book stores.
Not one bit of info in the POS Red Book was taken from any Ford parts catalog.
2FT = Ford Motor Company of Canada Ltd-Complete vehicle.
J = Class H = 9,001-10,000 lbs. GVWR
W36 = F350 4WD Crew Cab Pickup.
G = 460 EFI
8 = Check Digit, FoMoCo use only.
K = 1989.
C = Oakville Ontario Canada Truck Assembly Plant.
A33770 = 1989 Numerical Sequence of Assembly, the trucks specific serial number
G engine codes: 1980/85 351W 2V / 1987/89 460 EFI.
Info source: 1980/89 Ford Light Truck Parts Catalog.
FTE's VIN decoder info was not taken from any Ford Parts Catalogs. I doubt if LMC's was either.
More than likely it was taken from the horribly in-accurate Red Book, a total POS first published in the 1960's by and for Ford nuts, available in book stores.
Not one bit of info in the POS Red Book was taken from any Ford parts catalog.
Do you have any info on the "W" trans code, looks like it's a "wide ratio" ZF-5spd? What ratio/other differences are there between the two ZF's?
Did they put wide ratios in the 4.10 trucks and regular ZF's in the 3.55 trucks?
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The only five speed manual transmission that was ever offered behind the 460 is the ZF and it only came in one set of gear ratios for that motor. The diesel version of the ZF has a different set of ratios to work better with a diesel motor's lower powerband.
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From: Gadsden Purchase
...then decode it yourself with this...
http://www.zf.com/na/content/media/u...nsmissions.pdf
Unlike the tag on an E4OD, ZF's is stamped in so it's ok to clean it! LOL :)
Alvin in AZ
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From: Simi Valley, CA
Thanks Bill, I don't see you over here on the '89-'96 side as often as I used to on the '61-'66 side. I knew you hated the LMC decoder, wasn't sure how accurate the FTE one was until now.
Do you have any info on the "W" trans code, looks like it's a "wide ratio" ZF-5spd? What ratio/other differences are there between the two ZF's?
Do you have any info on the "W" trans code, looks like it's a "wide ratio" ZF-5spd? What ratio/other differences are there between the two ZF's?
1988/2001: C = ZF model M5HD Close Ratio 5 Speed Heavy Duty Overdrive.
These are the only ZF 5 speed TRANS codes listed in the 1980/89 & 1990/2001 Ford Light Truck Parts Catalogs.
Note inre to 2001: I have no parts catalogs after this year.
I spend very little time in the 1987 and later forums, because it's easier for peeps to obtain parts for these newer vehicles.
The same thing cannot be said for 1986 and prior years.
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From: Rapid City, SoDak
1989/2001: W = ZF model M5HD-W Wide Ratio 5 Speed Heavy Duty Overdrive.
1988/2001: C = ZF model MFHD Close Ratio 5 Speed Heavy Duty Overdrive.
These are the only ZF 5 speed TRANS codes listed in the 1980/89 & 1990/2001 Ford Light Truck Parts Catalogs.
Note inre to 2001: I have no parts catalogs after this year.
I spend very little time in the 1987 and later forums, because it's easier for peeps to obtain parts for these newer vehicles.
The same thing cannot be said for 1986 and prior years.
1988/2001: C = ZF model MFHD Close Ratio 5 Speed Heavy Duty Overdrive.
These are the only ZF 5 speed TRANS codes listed in the 1980/89 & 1990/2001 Ford Light Truck Parts Catalogs.
Note inre to 2001: I have no parts catalogs after this year.
I spend very little time in the 1987 and later forums, because it's easier for peeps to obtain parts for these newer vehicles.
The same thing cannot be said for 1986 and prior years.
It's hard to believe that's the "wide ratio" haha, driving the close ratio must be like driving a dump truck!
TYPO: TRANS code C = Should be M
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From: Gadsden Purchase
right here is all. The reverse gear ratio is the same as first = 5.72.
They may have made a ZF like that at some point or it's just a typo
or who knows what but typically most of the time information just
gets copied and so the mistake takes on a whole life of its own.
Like this mistake... "Broncos and F150s never came with a ZF"
You'll read that one over and over.
Ford spec book sez otherwise.
Bill confirmed it for me last week.
Alvin in AZ
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They are very hard to find, but a few 1988 F-150's and possibly Broncos were made with the 351w/ZF-5 combination.
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I've seen that mistake repeated lots of places so wanted to get it
right here is all. The reverse gear ratio is the same as first = 5.72.
right here is all. The reverse gear ratio is the same as first = 5.72.
http://www.zf.com/na/content/media/u...arRatio_60.pdf