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Old Dec 7, 2011 | 11:58 AM
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Ever Noticed this?

After an oil change the oil will drop to ~ about 1qrt low within a thousand or so miles. Fill it to the mark and i'll do it again in the same mileage.

So we stopped filling them all the way up @ the changes (3.5gal vs 3.75gal) and now they stay at about the 1qt low level for thousands of miles.

Never have came up with a good explanation for this but it sure does save on oil. Our drivers are now instructed to only fill when it hits the bottom of the crosshatch and only put 1qt in when they do.

Anybody else noticed this?
 
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Old Dec 7, 2011 | 12:27 PM
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I've noticed that with engines of all makes and sizes for over fifty years, now.

I believe it is caused by crank windage.

But I don't know for sure what causes it, and this is only my belief.

That, and a buck, will get you a cup of coffee in some cheap places......

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Old Dec 7, 2011 | 12:55 PM
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What did you stop for? I still need 14 more qts!

Mine will drop 3qts after about 5K miles...but I just change the oil then. I never checked it that soon after an oil change.
 
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Old Dec 7, 2011 | 12:58 PM
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Your theory's like mine but it's just strange - so many vehicles do it. Wonder how much oil is wasted by folks topping off when they check it vs waiting till it drops all the way?

Our VW TDI does the same thing only that's just a 1/2qt - ditto for most of our tractors
 
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Old Dec 8, 2011 | 07:53 PM
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So are we coming to a conclusion to run it about a quart low from the full mark and not worry about it?
 
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Old Dec 8, 2011 | 08:11 PM
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Yup - I'm running 8 trucks this way. Beats paying for a qt you're just gonna throw away. Granted the $ aren't much but it adds up over time.
 
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Old Dec 8, 2011 | 08:14 PM
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mine hardly losses an in 5k miles. maybe 1/2 quart.
 
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Old Dec 8, 2011 | 08:32 PM
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So are we coming to a conclusion to run it about a quart low from the full mark and not worry about it?
Not quite. We're saying it's not uncommon for the truck to always work it's way down to a quart low. Driving conditions, temperatures, towing, elevation, leaks, etc. all have an effect on the oil.

What we're saying is pay attention to your truck. If your engine always drops to a certain level and never goes below that, fill to that level. If your truck "uses" oil and it continues to go down, add oil to keep it in the cross hatches on the dipstick.
 
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Old Dec 8, 2011 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by F350-6
Not quite. We're saying it's not uncommon for the truck to always work it's way down to a quart low. Driving conditions, temperatures, towing, elevation, leaks, etc. all have an effect on the oil.

What we're saying is pay attention to your truck. If your engine always drops to a certain level and never goes below that, fill to that level. If your truck "uses" oil and it continues to go down, add oil to keep it in the cross hatches on the dipstick.
Ok I like that idea. I always try to keep it full and can't figure out where its going. Learn something new every day. I'm about due for a change so I'll have to watch it and see what happens.
 
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Old Dec 8, 2011 | 09:21 PM
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I use to have 95 KW. It had a 425 cat in it and it done the same thing so I just ran it a gal low made a mark on the stick and it never use any oil after that even after having 750,000 on the last overhaul and a 1,750,000 on the Turbo.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2011 | 01:41 AM
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Originally Posted by F350-6
Not quite. We're saying it's not uncommon for the truck to always work it's way down to a quart low. Driving conditions, temperatures, towing, elevation, leaks, etc. all have an effect on the oil.

What we're saying is pay attention to your truck. If your engine always drops to a certain level and never goes below that, fill to that level. If your truck "uses" oil and it continues to go down, add oil to keep it in the cross hatches on the dipstick.
Just like the coolant levels on some of our trucks like to hover an inch or so below the min level. Fill it up and after a while its back to where it was. Never goes lower either. Each engine has its own quirks.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2011 | 06:15 AM
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Mine is the same on the coolant level about about a inch below the min.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2011 | 06:36 AM
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What's weird is we have 8 SD's and they ALL do this. Only one uses oil and has to be regularly topped off but we only bring it back up to about the middle of the crosshatch on the stick.

The rest the usage is barely noticeable even after 4-5k - we're changing @ 7500-8000mi intervals with some trucks going more like 9k.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2011 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by twags6
Just like the coolant levels on some of our trucks like to hover an inch or so below the min level. Fill it up and after a while its back to where it was. Never goes lower either. Each engine has its own quirks.
Same here. Strange.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2011 | 08:04 AM
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Mine usually drops a half a quart. I ALWAYS check my oil level after I drive it the first time after a change, just to make sure I didn't spring a leak around the oil filter. On my old deuce & a half, the dipstick is hard to read. So I put in the required 22 qts, ran it, let it settle, & saw where it was on the dipstick. Turns out the proper level is in the middle of the word "check", so that's where I keep it. Don't forget there is probably some variation in the length of the dipstick tubes, etc. A 1/4" error there would make quite a difference.
 
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