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Old Aug 1, 2012 | 02:51 PM
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hey heres the serial number for the engine. T04039t544455. I know that this is a 4039t engine. i just need to get my hands on one.
 
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Old Aug 1, 2012 | 03:01 PM
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that engine is a genuine John Deere , have the same one in a Vermeer 475 trencher and in our old 401 backhoe !
 
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Old Aug 1, 2012 | 09:31 PM
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you guys woudnt happen to know what equipment have the 4039t engine in them i wanna find one cheap. but it has to be turbocharged already
 
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Old Aug 1, 2012 | 09:47 PM
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I will add the 4039 is going to need the turbo relocated to fit under the hood of a Ranger and the total weight is around 1100 pounds.

The 4039 was used in a lot of older Deere equipment before the 4045 took over.

Best source would be a junk Backhoe or Dozer or better yet an irrigation pump or genset

Even so, I'm not sure what bellhousing pattern it has.
 
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Old Aug 1, 2012 | 10:14 PM
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2020 John Deeres had them, its the same base tractor as an industrial 401. 2520's had them as well.
 
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Old Aug 1, 2012 | 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 84-6.9L
2020 John Deeres had them, its the same base tractor as an industrial 401. 2520's had them as well.
2020 had a Deere 3.3 aka Deere 202 and not the 3.9 4039 4 cylinder diesel.

A JD400 is similar to the 2020.

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Old Aug 1, 2012 | 11:55 PM
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dam bullitt thanks for the info on the 4039t i thought i would need to move the turbo small details. umm quick question is my suspension gonna be able to hold her?
 
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Old Aug 2, 2012 | 07:58 AM
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You'll have to beef up the springs to handle an extra 900 pounds on the front of the truck.

Might have to box the frame rails too.

Probably easier to find an early Mitsubishi/ Dodge and yank the diesel out of one of them along with the tranny.

With the Deere engine you'll need to figure out the bellhousing, flywheel/flexplate, adapters etc.

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Old Aug 2, 2012 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Bullitt390
2020 had a Deere 3.3 aka Deere 202 and not the 3.9 4039 4 cylinder diesel.

A JD400 is similar to the 2020.

Josh
Our JD401-A is the same as a 2020, with the loader and backhoe, however ours is a gas and absolutely gutless, but thats alot of weight for that little motor, but it will lift anything, it picked up the front end of our 5020 at one time.
 
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Old Aug 2, 2012 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by 84-6.9L
Our JD401-A is the same as a 2020, with the loader and backhoe, however ours is a gas and absolutely gutless, but thats alot of weight for that little motor, but it will lift anything, it picked up the front end of our 5020 at one time.
Deere 400 = 202 3.3 engine
Deere 401 = 4039 diesel engine

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Old Aug 2, 2012 | 11:25 AM
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Probably easier to find an early Mitsubishi/ Dodge and yank the diesel out of one of them along with the tranny.

Josh
so i should drop the 4039 and change over to one of those?
 
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Old Aug 2, 2012 | 12:13 PM
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I'm a diehard Deere fan, 2nd only to Ford, but IMHO it would be a pain in the butt to put a Deere 4 cylinder diesel in a Ranger.

If you have the money and time I would say go for it.

However the Mitsubishi diesel was factory installed in mid to late 80s Rangers, but is a little common it seems in the diesel Dodge Pups and Mitsu trucks.

Along with that a Cummins 4BT or Isuzu 4BD or even a VW diesel would be easier than the Deere.

Half the the battle is getting the engine, the rest of the battle is installing it.

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Old Aug 2, 2012 | 12:44 PM
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i have all the time i could ever want but moneys a little streched i dont know. how does the mitsubishi diesel fair i mean in life power and fuel ecomemy. also i dont know how they sound straight piped, do they sound alright?
 
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Old Aug 2, 2012 | 06:53 PM
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i have all the time i could ever want but moneys a little streched i dont know. how does the Mitsubishi diesel fair i mean in life power and fuel ecomemy. also i dont know how they sound straight piped, do they sound alright?

Stay away from Mitsubishi as parts are hard to get , i had a 6 cyl Mitsubishi some years ago and couldn't get parts for it so it ended up going to the scrap yard !

any genuine John Deere , Cummins , Isuzu , will be well supported for parts for years to come !

I think they all sound good straight piped but you may not be able to get by with it if you have neighbors living close by !
 
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Old Aug 2, 2012 | 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by cj06
Stay away from Mitsubishi as parts are hard to get , i had a 6 cyl Mitsubishi some years ago and couldn't get parts for it so it ended up going to the scrap yard !

any genuine John Deere , Cummins , Isuzu , will be well supported for parts for years to come !

I think they all sound good straight piped but you may not be able to get by with it if you have neighbors living close by !
The 4D55/4D56 engines are somewhat rare in the USA. But far more common than the original Perkins 2.2 in the early Rangers.

Normal parts aren't hard to come by like injectors etc. If one really wanted to go nuts on a Mitsu engine shop around on UK eBay or one of the other foreign eBay sites and you'll find parts a'plenty.

As Montana_Highboy has pointed out many times, the early diesel Rangers net 30+ mpg, but the 0-60 is measured in minutes. The small diesels just do not have that much get-up-n-go compared to a big 6 or V8 Turbo diesel.

I think a diesel conversion is a nice "wow" factor, but after figuring all the costs involved that would buy plenty of gasoline. Not only for a stock gas 4 banger or the 2.9/4.0, but even compared to doing a 302 conversion.

I went over the idea countless times this last year straight with my 87 Ranger. Everything from an Isuzu 4BD, a Mighty Max 4D55, even tossed around the idea of a Bobcat Deutz engine.

The 4BD needs adaptors etc for the bellhousing, plus heavier duty front springs and custom engine mounts.

The 4D55 was installed in Rangers, but then I would need to find a Ford specific bellhousing and go back to using an FM145/146 tranny which both suck *****. There was a reason I yanked the FM145 and swapped in an M5OD.

A Deutz is neat, but is a whole 'nother ball o' wax with a who knows what bellhousing pattern, flywheel/flexplate and all that other garbage.

And to top it off on all of that is my state (Colorado) and my county (Weld County) cannot consistently figure out if they want to do diesel emissions testing in my area of the county.

They used to, then they decided it wasn't needed then they brought it back to the entire county and now they have "supposedly" only chosen certain parts of the county.

Ugh!

Josh
 
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