SPARK PLUG DISASTER,1 LEFT NEED INPUT
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SPARK PLUG DISASTER,1 LEFT NEED INPUT
trying to finish up a plug change with no luck at all ,every plug broke! the problem is that the porcelin center stayed with the grounding shield on everyone,now I am on the last one (pass. rear) and can't seem to break it off. Due to it's position I can't see it and its hard to grab with the needle nose( 10 " and 14" straight and bent) anyone have any sugetions ?
this last one is a bitch!
this last one is a bitch!
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I got the others out with a spark plug extractor after poping the porcelain stems off,the problem is this last one , I cant seem to get the pliers on enough due to the ac lines.also the jamnut wont slide off.of course its the the one that you cant see that gives you the hardest time!
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I've got a couple of little mirrors, I think they came out of women's make up kits or something that measure like 4x4 inches that are extremely helpful for situations like yours. I keep them in my tool box and you can see quite well with them in some of those tight spots. If you take a long screwdriver you should be able to pry against the top of the plug and it will break it off then you can get that part out with a magnet if you have one. Good luck you're almost home free. I did that plug first on my truck cause I expected the worst and didn't want it to be my last one!
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something just don't sit well with me,took a picture of it and it dosent look like any of the others from the top also seems like any socket I try seems not to grab from 9/16 to 5/8 and 15 mm.it looks rounded
this is one that i took out
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When you broke the plug did it snap and spin to infinity like the others? I used long needle nose from the $1.99 bin at advanced auto and bent them to work trying to get a piece of boot out of my 4.6. If it's just sitting in there spinning and loose and rounded i would think you coud still get it out using the socket and something to snug up the space between the threads and the socket like tape or a little adhesive and heavy paper. Something that won't also get stuck down there. Had to be #4 What a PITA. Good Luck
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something just don't sit well with me,took a picture of it and it dosent look like any of the others from the top also seems like any socket I try seems not to grab from 9/16 to 5/8 and 15 mm.it looks rounded
this is one that i took out
Could be the socket is grabbing, but the nut is spinning. I had one like that.
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sent a video probe down,looks like the nut is stripped and I am **** out of luck for now. all I know is that it had to take a tremendous amount of force to do that or someone started off with the wrong socket.I would like to thank the genius at Ford that worked on this truck before I bought it.
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Ram7880 hopefully it was just the wrong socket or an impact that they did not get down on it properly being way back there and not the fact that the damn thing is that tight in the head. I wonder if you could tap a socket over the stripped plug. Modify the proper socket with a weld bead, or something to snug it up, and file and using a short machine hammer and shorter extension maybe sideways tap it over the rounded shoulders. I know that’s way back in there to be trying to swing/tap a hammer, but there has to be a method of extraction short of removing head. Anyone else have any ideas?
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That sounds like some sound advice. You should be able to tap a 12 point socket one millimeter smaller down on it. You really don't have anything to lose right now. It's something like this that give us all the shudders before starting this job. Ford should really be responsible for these plugs, I would say they should be considered defective with this lousy manufacturing.
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have to say you guys read my mind, I worked the plug with a 5/8" socket then metric down to 9/16" and was finally able to break it free.everything is back together and running just seems to idle real low!
thank you everyone for your input,its always good to see people are still willing to help! Now it's time for a six pack
thank you everyone for your input,its always good to see people are still willing to help! Now it's time for a six pack
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RAM7880 Congratulations!! Perseverance wins again. This is the kind of stuff that makes you really appreciate turning the key in the morning and hearing that baby fire up on all eight. You know your straight now!
That low idle should go away after some regular driving as the ECU relearns the fuel map. I assume you disconnected the battery to get the ECU out and gain some more elbow room. That would reset the computer. Someone else commented low idle this week after a battery and alt change. I remember mine running funky after rolling up to the stop sign after my battery replacement last year. Again Great to hear the good news! Shawn
That low idle should go away after some regular driving as the ECU relearns the fuel map. I assume you disconnected the battery to get the ECU out and gain some more elbow room. That would reset the computer. Someone else commented low idle this week after a battery and alt change. I remember mine running funky after rolling up to the stop sign after my battery replacement last year. Again Great to hear the good news! Shawn