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Just purchased a clean, loaded, 08, 250 SD 5.4 Auto. 373 posi axles with 45K on the clock.
What is the best bang for the buck for bolt on performance up-grades to this engine?
Im going to go with the K&N cold air intake system, Cat back and a chip for now.
Im well versed in all things automotive. Im just looking for good direction for what works in the real world from your experience. (Brand specific pro/cons in a private email so as not to upset site administrators rules)
There is a ton of companies offering the above items I would simply like to narrow it down.
Also looking for electronic rust inhibitor. Had one on a 95 Grand Cherokee Jeep that was still mostly rust free after 15 years in the rust belt. Sold that dont remember what brand was on it?
Thanks for the help!
Just purchased a clean, loaded, 08, 250 SD 5.4 Auto. 373 posi axles with 45K on the clock.
What is the best bang for the buck for bolt on performance up-grades to this engine?
Im going to go with the K&N cold air intake system, Cat back and a chip for now.
Im well versed in all things automotive. Im just looking for good direction for what works in the real world from your experience. (Brand specific pro/cons in a private email so as not to upset site administrators rules)
There is a ton of companies offering the above items I would simply like to narrow it down.
Also looking for electronic rust inhibitor. Had one on a 95 Grand Cherokee Jeep that was still mostly rust free after 15 years in the rust belt. Sold that dont remember what brand was on it?
Thanks for the help!
With regards to “Chips” and “Tuners”, years ago it was the best that most could do to enhance the ignition timing, fuel curve, transmission shift points, etc. It was (and still is) very important that a person verifies that the “Tuner” is ASE certified in both ECM and Transmission programming and IMHO be have current certification by the OEM whose vehicle you want to modify. There are plenty of persons who advertise their programs to be the best and even offer custom tunes, but in all reality, very few actually have credentials in these areas- but that’s not to say that some of these “geniuses” haven’t really caused damage to a few vehicles- just jump over to flatratetech.com and read just some of the comments from the MSE techs!. Perhaps what is equally important is the parameters that can be adjusted are set by the OEM vehicle software…so there is really no “magic” in what they are doing anyway. Now about this new marketing hype that if you have a CAI you need a custom program………….hogwash!!!!!! The OEM software system is designed to adjust the fuel mixture up to 10%.......that’s more than enough to handle fuel mixture adjustments up to 7,000 foot elevation change! (for high elevations 8,000+ there are oem software programs for those specific applications) The 5.4 V8 for example if close to stock can only suck in a maximum of 480 cfm and a flat panel filter will flow 500 cfm, there is simply no way any CAI on a relatively stock engine can increase the air flow enough to exceed the ECM’s ability to adjust and maintain the correct fuel mixture. The only reason for the “custom” program to support the CAI is because the design is poor resulting in false readings from the air intake sensors, etc….period! If you look at the dyno charts from many of these supposed HP/TQ increases, they are typically around 5%-7% at peak rpm ranges…….guess what, 5% is a standard deviation even amoungst mfg dynos and the most important item is……these “expert tuners” (at least most) do not have or choose not to test their results (in comparison to the oem intakes) during actual vehicle motion (or simulation- such as a wind tunnel) as the oems do. What many view as an issue (is the plastic intake tube with its noise canceling design) actually increases air pressure. It is the same hydraulic concept used by fire fighters creating water supply where psi is low. By having the air cross the path at a 90 degree angle, the pressure is increased proportionally. Fire fighters use what is called a “4-way valve” or “Blake Valve” at the hydrant where the water is cycled through the fire engine (pump) and sent back into the valve crossing the water flow at a 90 degree angle. In this case it also acts as a sound canceling device! At low speeds, this can reduce the flow a tad (which is what most “feel”), but in terms of peak hp/tq, a good high flow filter is all that is needed.
Recently, Testand Corporation conducted an ISO standards test on automotive air filters which can be viewed at this link: http://www.dieselbombers.com/chevrol...r-testing.html. All I can say is this explains in detail the reason for
(Arlen) SPICER wrote,
“Now that I am not doing the tests and my objectivity is not necessary, let me explain my motivation. The reason I started this crusade was that I was seeing people spend a lot of money on aftermarket filters based on the word of a salesperson or based on the misleading, incomplete or outright deceiving information printed on boxes and in sales literature"
I can personally state, that although K&N type filters do hold a very valid purpose in off-road applications (and yes i still use them in specialized applications), I can also state that K&N does not honor their warranties in any way shape or form...even with 3rd party engineers documenting in writing (which still exists in OASIS today on a vehicle which I still own).
I would avoid oil impregnated filters. While they have their purpose in off-road applications, Ford/GM/Dodge all have “watch-out” bulletins where the oil has contaminated intake sensors. - they even have a training video for the techs on this (flatratetech.com) .
If you look at the flow data, WIX HP filters flow 98+% of K&N and have a much smoother flow post filter plus excellent filtering, for a fraction of the price!
IMHO, if you live near any major city there are excellent tuning specialists with dynos who for the same price (if not less) will tune your vehicle taking into consideration your specific needs including environmental conditions, for your specific vehicle. IMHO, the best bang for the buck!
Call Mike Butler at 5Startuning.com (or you can PM fordmdb - he's a site sponsor).
I think you'll find the WASHOOBI (warmer air than stock under the hood bling intake) is a waste of money until you're well above 3500 RPMs AND you have a custom tune.