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Old Nov 28, 2011 | 08:26 PM
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Afe stage 2 vibration

I just installed an AFE stage 2 on my 04 f150. I was driving down the freeway and I decided to step on it and it made a loud hum sound and it had a vibration I could feel through the peddle. It was so loud and aggressive I pulled off the road to see if something came apart. Everything looked ok and all my bolts and such are tight.

Is this normal?
 
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Old Nov 29, 2011 | 06:51 AM
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Do you have any tunes to go along with that intake? The 04 & 05 MYs are notorious for running lean when an aftermarket intake is installed on the truck without a reprogram of the ignition. Put the stock intake back on and see if you can replicate the problem.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2011 | 10:19 AM
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Ok sounds good. It just poped a check engine code last night. Not sure what it was. I don't have a tune to go with it so I will look into that. Shouldn't the comp. adjust to more air entering the system by allowing more fuel? I will chec the code and get back to u though. Thanks!
 
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Old Nov 29, 2011 | 10:21 AM
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That's the problem, the 04 & 05 doesn't have enough tolerance in the stock mapping to compensate. Not shocked by the CEL being thrown honestly.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2011 | 04:56 PM
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I unplugged the battery and it reset. I am about to go pull up the history though and see what it was. I ran it with the stock one on and both the sound and vibration was gone. I also called four wheel parts and they said the sound and vibration is normal, it is just the intake sucking air. If I run it without a tuner is that really bad for it would you say? I know running something to lean is never a good idea but what determines to lean. any recommendations?<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comfficeffice" /><o></o>
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Old Nov 29, 2011 | 07:51 PM
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Just had the code read, and MCDavis was right! It was a too lean code on bank 2. Now the question is ways to get around that? Do I need to tune it? Is that the only way it will ever work?<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comfficeffice" /><o></o>
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Or does anybody know a shop in southern cali that will tune my truck for me? (for a decent price.)<o></o>
 
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Old Nov 29, 2011 | 07:57 PM
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Mike Butler is the man you want to chat with. A SCT X3 programmer with Mike's tunes will run you about $400. If you want to keep that engine bling...errr...intake, then you need tunes so that you won't throw codes and hurt your truck.

If you cannot come up with the $$$ right now, then put the stock intake back on until you can afford the programmer and custom tunes.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2011 | 08:09 PM
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allright sounds good I will do that. I didn't anticipate paying for a tune, so i will just save the money up right now and go from there! thanks for all the advice, but one more question. could i buy A edge or A bully dog or something like that and change the peramiters enough or do I need a custome tune?
 
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an Edge might do the trick...but then you are playing with fire IMO

spend the money on a Gryphon (custom tuned Edge), or do a SCT tuner.


As far as the intake noise itself, that is normal. Especially with the intake you have. Most CAI's will make some drone. But the more extreme ones like yours produce alot of drone
 
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Old Nov 30, 2011 | 12:12 AM
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allrght cool thanks alot!
 
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Old Nov 30, 2011 | 05:15 AM
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Edge and BullyDog canned tunes are designed for a stock truck. You can use these, if you go back to the stock intake.

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allright sounds good. I just don't understand why AFE markets their stuff by saying its bolt on with nothing else required. if I would have known all this came with it I would have thought twice on buying it. I am gonna save up though, I like how it runs now with it on. thanks for all the advice though.
 
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that is because the 06-08 trucks might be okay with it since their PCM's are more flexible in the fuel strategies.

99% of the 04-05 trucks will have issues and EVERY SINGLE intake on the market without custom tuning
 
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Old Dec 1, 2011 | 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by jkarne
allright sounds good. I just don't understand why AFE markets their stuff by saying its bolt on with nothing else required. if I would have known all this came with it I would have thought twice on buying it. I am gonna save up though, I like how it runs now with it on. thanks for all the advice though.
Because if they told you you needed another $400-600 in parts, would you have bought it?

I have another question for you - did you look at the dyno graphs for the AFE? Did you happen to notice the RPM range for the 5-12 hp increase?

Ever seen this: The kd4crs/Power Hungry/Gotts Mod (revisited - and with pictures) - Power Hungry Performance Forum

Lot cheaper and just as good...
 
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