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Old Nov 14, 2011 | 09:27 AM
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Question 12v welder?

I need to weld a piece of 2" wide X 4" long flat steel to the back of a deep socket to get to the IPR. I have heard a 12 battery can be used for the power, attach jumper cables to the batt, ground one end to the steel to be welded and put the welding stick in the other cable end clamp. Anyone know if this really works?

It sure isn't worth buying a welder....
 
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Old Nov 14, 2011 | 09:30 AM
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http://www.amazon.com/Lisle-LIS68210...1284579&sr=8-1
 
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Old Nov 14, 2011 | 09:40 AM
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But where is the fun in that?
$4 socket from Harbor Freight
Steel bar laying around
50 cent welding stick

If it works, I'll stick a platform together to slip into the front receivers to reach the engine more easily.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2011 | 09:46 AM
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Why do you need to weld anything? Just cut the side out of the cheap socket like the tool shown and use a ratchet.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2011 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Steve_250
I need to weld a piece of 2" wide X 4" long flat steel to the back of a deep socket to get to the IPR. I have heard a 12 battery can be used for the power, attach jumper cables to the batt, ground one end to the steel to be welded and put the welding stick in the other cable end clamp. Anyone know if this really works?

It sure isn't worth buying a welder....
Have you ever arc welded? I cant say that this will work, but if I had a spare good battery around and some jumper cables.... I would be willing to go and buy a cheap $60 hood and $100 for a box of electrodes to give it a shot
Battery Arc Welder - YouTube watch this then decide if its worth the $25 dollar socket
 
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Old Nov 14, 2011 | 09:54 AM
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The socket isn't long enough.
Got a thread going about the engine bucking.
Anyway, here is the article that tells how to make the inexpensive removal tool.
It can be used on your 6.0 also....
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Aw geez Mark, that looks more complex than I'd like to do.
Looks easy enough, just too much work.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2011 | 09:59 AM
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just go for it... why you askin perission.... the worst that can happen is it dont work..... and the batt blowing up... whatch them vapors...
 
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Old Nov 14, 2011 | 10:00 AM
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Welding with 12v batteries

Originally Posted by Steve_250
I need to weld a piece of 2" wide X 4" long flat steel to the back of a deep socket to get to the IPR. I have heard a 12 battery can be used for the power, attach jumper cables to the batt, ground one end to the steel to be welded and put the welding stick in the other cable end clamp. Anyone know if this really works?

It sure isn't worth buying a welder....
Actually I think that you need 2 batteries hooked up in series (positive to negative) which gives you 24v to get enough heat. The famous explorer Mark Smith used this setup in 1978 when he took 5 Jeeps from the tip of South America to the northern-most tip of Alaska. When they broke an axle in the middle of the Darien Gap they welded it with that setup. There is a video of them welding that axle with that setup called "Expedicion" (spelled with a c) that appears on PBS occasionally and on You Tube.
 
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Short answer: yes, you can weld off an alternator, but it's not as easy as "hook up jumper cables and burn 7018." Batteries are easier, but just buy a welder instead of ruining stuff trying to make it do what it's not supposed to just to try to save a buck.
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If it works, I'll stick a platform together to slip into the front receivers to reach the engine more easily.
Definitely not good enough for this. You can get a Lincoln AC tombstone off craigslist for $100, that's cheaper than killing the alternator and batteries in your truck.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2011 | 10:05 AM
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Sure, in a pinch and you're out in the middle of nowhere, you might be able to rig that setup and tack some items together just to have them last long enough to get you out of that situation, but whether or not you get good results is a different question. Instead of being constant voltage or constant current you get neither out of a battery.

Can't borrow a unit from anyone, or heck, go to their place to use it for a few seconds?
 
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Old Nov 14, 2011 | 10:09 AM
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Wasn't asking permission Mark, just wanted to know if it was possible.
I wouldn't dare weld off the ALT or installed batts. Don't want to fry the truck.
I have four batts in the bed giving juice to an inverter.
But it isn't worth the hassle of rewiring them.

I'll just go get the socket and stop off at a welding shop.
I don't have time to wait for shipping of the specialty socket Cartman posted the link to.
Well, thanks anyway guys.....
 
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Battery welding

Originally Posted by texastech_diesel
Short answer: yes, you can weld off an alternator, but it's not as easy as "hook up jumper cables and burn 7018." Batteries are easier, but just buy a welder instead of ruining stuff trying to make it do what it's not supposed to just to try to save a buck.
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Definitely not good enough for this. You can get a Lincoln AC tombstone off craigslist for $100, that's cheaper than killing the alternator and batteries in your truck.
Yes, I agree. Battery welding in emergencies only. But it can be done. I'm not sure that I would want to run off the alternator for fear of burning out the voltage regulator when you strike an arc. But then I have never done it.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2011 | 10:17 AM
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remember get the 1/2 drive socket. the others are too short
 
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Old Nov 14, 2011 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by PA-Mark
remember get the 1/2 drive socket. the others are too short
Got'cha!
Thanks!

Someone wrote to slip a carriage bolt in from the inside and bolt it to the flat stock, but removed the post.
That is an interesting idea but the bolt takes up the space the tip of the sensor would use in the socket.
 
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Got'cha!
Thanks!

Someone wrote to slip a carriage bolt in from the inside and bolt it to the flat stock, but removed the post.
That is an interesting idea but the bolt takes up the space the tip of the sensor would use in the socket.
Steve,
Is this what you need: Injector Pressure Regulator socket < - - - - click on the link

I just stumbled across this on Amazon.com when I was looking for something else for my 1950 F2. At $19.55 cheap enough and they can get it to you in a couple days. Of course if you are like me you need it right "NOW".
 
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