only 6.5 volts to the fuel pump
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it is a 1990 BII sorry for leaving that out. dont have too much experience in trouble shooting electrical so thanks for bearing with me on this.
just to let you know i have already put in a new relay and i still get 6.5 volts at pump. tried to check the voltage to the relay by removing the connector and checking the pins there. the drawing that i have in the manual indicates that red is the hot but i get no voltage there. checked all the others and now voltage so im doing something wrong. key is in the on position.
whats next?
just to let you know i have already put in a new relay and i still get 6.5 volts at pump. tried to check the voltage to the relay by removing the connector and checking the pins there. the drawing that i have in the manual indicates that red is the hot but i get no voltage there. checked all the others and now voltage so im doing something wrong. key is in the on position.
whats next?
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6.5 V along the fuel pump circuit (post relay) is fairly normal when the relay is open. I don't know enough solid state electronics to explain it, but it is a "ghost" voltage from inside the PCM.
The red wire is one wire that should have 12 V KOEO. The red wire comes from the EEC relay, which should be closed whenever the key is on. If that red wire isn't showing power, go back to the EEC relay and make sure it has power there and that the EEC relay is closing. Not only is it essential for this wire to have power, but the PCM also has to have power, because the PCM is responsible for closing the fuel pump relay.
There should also be a wire (at the fuel pump relay) from the fuse/fusible link that has 12 V at all times.
the drawing that i have in the manual indicates that red is the hot but i get no voltage there.
There should also be a wire (at the fuel pump relay) from the fuse/fusible link that has 12 V at all times.
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which one is the ECC?
based on what you said above i assume that the red wire into the ECC should have 12v as well?
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ok this is where i am. checked voltages through the ECC relay. how power to the blk/ylw there. changed the relay and then got power to the new fuel relay connector on the red wire with ing on. checked voltage at the fuel pump and got these readings.
when the key is turn to ing i get 12v that then drops to 7v.
with key in the starting mode i get 12v.
fuel pump does pump for approx 3 - 5 seconds. i assume that this is to pressurize the system. checked for fuel at the fuel rail at the pressure valve point and no fuel. held the pressure valve open while trying to start motor but still no fuel. is there something else inline that could be a blockage? ran it 3 times with no fuel coming.
what am i missing?
when the key is turn to ing i get 12v that then drops to 7v.
with key in the starting mode i get 12v.
fuel pump does pump for approx 3 - 5 seconds. i assume that this is to pressurize the system. checked for fuel at the fuel rail at the pressure valve point and no fuel. held the pressure valve open while trying to start motor but still no fuel. is there something else inline that could be a blockage? ran it 3 times with no fuel coming.
what am i missing?
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There are two fuel pumps. One on the frame rail, and one in tank. If the in tank one dies, you'll get little to no fuel at the rail. The frame rail pump is located behind a small metal cover on the drivers side frame rail, up front. You'll see it, the fuel filter will be near it as well.
Disconnect the fuel line before the rail mounted pump (just pull the little plastic clip) and have someone cycle the key and see if fuel comes out of the tank.
Disconnect the fuel line before the rail mounted pump (just pull the little plastic clip) and have someone cycle the key and see if fuel comes out of the tank.
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The dual pump system was used up to '87 or '88. His is a '90, so it should have a single, high pressure, in tank pump. If he happens to have a "throw back" set up to the old 2 pump system, it would be important to know that both pumps are working.
If the pump is running, but no pressure is being generated:
1) Clogged filter
2) clogged pickup
3) other clogged line
4) bad pump
If you feel like you can do this carefully, disconnect the fuel filter, then run the pump briefly (you can use the fuel pump test lead in the self-test connector) and see if the pump is pumping anything to the filter.
If the pump is running, but no pressure is being generated:
1) Clogged filter
2) clogged pickup
3) other clogged line
4) bad pump
If you feel like you can do this carefully, disconnect the fuel filter, then run the pump briefly (you can use the fuel pump test lead in the self-test connector) and see if the pump is pumping anything to the filter.
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