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anybody have some experience with damaged driveways.mine looks terrible.don't have the big bucks to have one poured.not going to do it myself because i broke my hip in oct. anyway i have pretty large areas[3 ft] that the concrete is missing down to the re-bar and a bit below. do they make anything good that can be patched somehow ??? asked a few people at work and they said it's a lost cause.i have no experience at this.do any of you have some positive ideas or cures.modern technology has to have a cure.i'm sure someone has run into this also.taking ideas...thanks all..........joezee
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I have seen some concrete patch material at the Home Depot but I don't have any experience with them. You might ask someone at one of these type of stores that probably sell that sort of thing.
For a quick patch job to get you by, I would fill up the holes with asphalt. Pound it in place with a 4 lb. hammer. It might not look all that good but it will save the tires from getting chewed up.
For a quick patch job to get you by, I would fill up the holes with asphalt. Pound it in place with a 4 lb. hammer. It might not look all that good but it will save the tires from getting chewed up.
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Basically, it is a lost cause.
You can patch it up temporarily with with either the Home Depot style driveway patch cement, or you can bet some gravel and Portland cement and mix up a batch of the real stuff yourself, depending on the trouble and expense you want to go to.
The patch will last for a year or two, depending on traffic, and most importantly, the amount of moisture and freeze/thaw cycles the driveway is exposed to.
Unfortunately, once it starts, it can't really be stopped. The original cement was too wet when poured, and during curing it tends to contract and become more porous and "strained". The inevitable result is chipping/cracking. It's speeded by road salt and moisture, both of which accelerate the freeze/thaw process that causes the damage.
The cost of breaking up and hauling away the old driveway and pouring new is very prohibitive, so I'd suggest that patching it every year or two will get you by until you decide you're willing to spend the big bucks. It's cheap (probably well under $50), and it'll become like spring cleaning, just another job to do every spring.
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You can patch it up temporarily with with either the Home Depot style driveway patch cement, or you can bet some gravel and Portland cement and mix up a batch of the real stuff yourself, depending on the trouble and expense you want to go to.
The patch will last for a year or two, depending on traffic, and most importantly, the amount of moisture and freeze/thaw cycles the driveway is exposed to.
Unfortunately, once it starts, it can't really be stopped. The original cement was too wet when poured, and during curing it tends to contract and become more porous and "strained". The inevitable result is chipping/cracking. It's speeded by road salt and moisture, both of which accelerate the freeze/thaw process that causes the damage.
The cost of breaking up and hauling away the old driveway and pouring new is very prohibitive, so I'd suggest that patching it every year or two will get you by until you decide you're willing to spend the big bucks. It's cheap (probably well under $50), and it'll become like spring cleaning, just another job to do every spring.
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The Army Engineers have this concrete that sets in one hour. They use it to patch runways that have been bombed. I can't remember what it's called but it is commercially available. I used it and can tell you it's the cat's meow.
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The same company that makes Quikrete has come out with a type of concret specifically for driveway concrete patching. I can't remember what it's called, but I saw it in one of the Lowes mail flyers a couple weeks ago. I think it comes in a red bag.
On a side note, if you use salt or de-icing products on your driveway during winter, it will deteriate the concrete much faster than normal wear and tear!
On a side note, if you use salt or de-icing products on your driveway during winter, it will deteriate the concrete much faster than normal wear and tear!
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Portland Cerment makes a mixable chip and pothole in your driveway replacement product that they sell at most home improvement places. I have some on my curb right now and my dad parks his truck ( the big ones) right next to it and sometimes on it and it has held very well.
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Im probably not giving any sort of constructive information for you, but thats never stopped me before! How deep is this hole? Just fill er up with pebbles. Wont wash away in the rain, should fill in any bits under the rebar, its cheap, and makes good projectiles for when the neighbors are acting up again.
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yes, it's a lost cause, but if you want to invest a few hour of work you can get a accepteble solution for years.
Do not fill up the hole with concrete! The concrete is not thick enough in the edge area. The best way is to cut a square arround the hole. Cut as deep as possible, approx. 10 " by using a flex with a concrete blade.
Remove the material out of the square and fill up the hole with concrete. Use only moist, not liquid material. Don't forget to compress the concrete. If the hole is bigger as 20 x 20 " you should also ad some steel rods, just lay them into the concrete.
good luck
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Do not fill up the hole with concrete! The concrete is not thick enough in the edge area. The best way is to cut a square arround the hole. Cut as deep as possible, approx. 10 " by using a flex with a concrete blade.
Remove the material out of the square and fill up the hole with concrete. Use only moist, not liquid material. Don't forget to compress the concrete. If the hole is bigger as 20 x 20 " you should also ad some steel rods, just lay them into the concrete.
good luck
Jens
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gentlemen: thanks for the input and help.some of the ideas sound good and i'll look into on vac in a couple weeks.i have several good size areas like that.the guys at lowe's sound like they will be pretty good to talk too.i'll try a patch job and see how it goes.when i first moved here i was impressed with the driveway.now i realize she had somone come over to repatch and make it look so good.well all,thanks again....joezee
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Originally posted by flyboy2610
If you can prove that the previous owner was intentionally trying to conceal a major defect you may have grounds for legal action.
If you can prove that the previous owner was intentionally trying to conceal a major defect you may have grounds for legal action.
C'mon, she patched the driveway, hardly a "major defect", people do it all the time, either the buyer should have been keen enough to recognize it or hired a quality home inspector.
It was in good shape when you bought it right? Would it have changed your decision to buy the home? Would it have affected the purchase price beyond the couple hundred dollars you're about to spend? Would you rather that you had to pay for it initiallly?
Just what the courts need, another frivilous lawsuit.
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If you look around you might find a Specialty concrete products distributer in your area.
There is a product that is like an epoxy resin.
very elastic when the can is opened by onc eit is down is becomes quite rigid.
These crumbling driveways & sidewalks are all the more reason to hire professional (caring) workers.
Little things like :
1) Dirt getting kicked into concrete accidently when it is being poured.
2) Too high of slump when pouring.
3) Someone sprays water on already poured wet concrete because they haven't been able to keep up to the actions of the setting qualities of the concrete.
4)Poorly prepared supportive Bed & Too much weight,for the application.
5)Lack of rebar placed to spec.
6)Driving on too soon (within the 3-week period)
All all these will cause breakage,crumbling,early eroding,or shaling thus exposing the aggregate and finally needing to be replaced concrete.
There is a product that is like an epoxy resin.
very elastic when the can is opened by onc eit is down is becomes quite rigid.
These crumbling driveways & sidewalks are all the more reason to hire professional (caring) workers.
Little things like :
1) Dirt getting kicked into concrete accidently when it is being poured.
2) Too high of slump when pouring.
3) Someone sprays water on already poured wet concrete because they haven't been able to keep up to the actions of the setting qualities of the concrete.
4)Poorly prepared supportive Bed & Too much weight,for the application.
5)Lack of rebar placed to spec.
6)Driving on too soon (within the 3-week period)
All all these will cause breakage,crumbling,early eroding,or shaling thus exposing the aggregate and finally needing to be replaced concrete.
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