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Old Oct 22, 2011 | 02:54 PM
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Stuck Wheel

I have a pair of mounted snows I am trying to put on the truck. I bought a 120v impact gun from Harbour Freight, a set of sockets and a 4 ton bottle jack. The gun spins the lugs off nicely, the jack gets the truck up in the air.

The wheel (Ive chosen to work on first) does not want to come off. I tried loosening the 8 nuts a couple of turns and driving back and forth a bout 4 times.

The wheel refuses to budge. My feeble attempts to kick the wheel feel like kicking Mt Rushmore.

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Old Oct 22, 2011 | 03:35 PM
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two suggestions.
1. With lugs backed off, drive forward and stomp hard on the brakes.
2. With lugs off and wheel lifted clear of the pavement hit the lower edge of the tire hard inwards with a sledge hammer.
 
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Old Oct 22, 2011 | 03:36 PM
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BIg hammer, I use the side of my 3lb sledge on the sidewall of the tire. If you have an 8 lb sledge, use it. Using the side of the hammer keeps it from bouncing back, so you can hit it harder.
 
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Old Oct 22, 2011 | 04:09 PM
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also try spraying some PB blaster where the wheel meets the hub. its amazing stuff. then try beating on it a little. if that doesn't do it, see if there's any was of getting a prybar between the wheel and the brake drum, as this works in many cases, especially when you can used a crowbar with a hooked end.
the worst case i ever dealt with was somebody put the wrong wheels on the car, with the center hole being such a size it was a tight press fit to the hub. i had to extract the axle shaft with wheel from the axle housing, place it in a press, and drive the shaft out with the press. it popped at 5 tons of force. that was a car tire, my press wouldn't be big enough for a truck tire, and i doubt you have a suitable press.
also, alloy wheels are prone to sticking to steel hubs, and this can be prevented by applying anti-sieze to the mating surfaces.
if you can't get it, drive to your local tire shop (the good one, which has the older guys working there), and ask them to change them out for you. they have a lot more experience with this than most other people, and likely have the equipment to get even the most stubborn wheels off
 
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Old Oct 22, 2011 | 08:40 PM
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Is it left handed thread? gotta remember our trucks have the left side all reverse thread....
 
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Old Oct 22, 2011 | 09:01 PM
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like everybody said hit it harder and then when you do get it off put the anti size on.
 
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Old Oct 22, 2011 | 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Aune163rd
Is it left handed thread? gotta remember our trucks have the left side all reverse thread....
He can get the lug nuts off no problem, so thats not an issue

I'm curious though, which years are reverse thread? Cuz sure isn't.
 
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Old Oct 22, 2011 | 10:37 PM
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Bigger hammer! I've had to use 10-12lb sledge hammers for this process before.

Worst I saw was a grader that hadn't been off for years, the tire guy had 2 20 ton jacks between the rim and frame, and it still didn't go. Ended up changing the tire with teh rim still on the machine, never did get it off.
 
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Old Oct 22, 2011 | 11:24 PM
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If the threads are left handed on the left side of the truck the owners manaul doesnt mention it.

Yeah Im a little scared of the truck being up in the air and the lugs nuts off and hitting it with a sledge. Its BIG and Im not used to working on stuff like this. I dont have jack stands that can be esily adjusted to fit the axle.

Just gonna have to make the stand work and get my son over here...
 
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Old Oct 23, 2011 | 12:11 AM
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put away the jackstands, they're too tippy. get some nice large blocks of wood to take their place and support the axle safely. i've seen too many small-footprint jacks and stands fall over. once its set down on a solid stack of blocks, grab the body, shake like hell, and if it still looks solid to you, go ahead and beat on it, it won't move.
 
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Old Oct 23, 2011 | 04:06 AM
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Gee years ago we used to get square chainsaw cut apple wood for burning in the fireplace. That would be perfect for this!

I have split firewood but I doubt that could be made to work.

Hopefully driving around and getting on the brakes will do the trick...
 
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Old Oct 23, 2011 | 06:48 AM
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If you are worried about it falling when you hit the tire, then leave two of the lug nuts on at approx. 9 oclock and 3 oclock but backed off about a 1/4 inch. If it falls then the wheel will still be on.
 
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Old Oct 23, 2011 | 07:44 AM
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That gives me an idea. 2 lugs on like you say jack it up and push it off the jack.
 
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Old Oct 23, 2011 | 08:50 AM
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If you're going to do that i would have at least 4 lug nuts on....

You have a spare tire from something around? I trick i used to do when i worked at a tire shop was i would remove the nuts, then swing another tire/wheel and hit the stuck tire as hard as i could. Alternating front to back if it took more than one hit. Worked almost every time and never marred a wheel.

That only works if both tires have air in them though...
 
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Old Oct 23, 2011 | 09:18 AM
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I am not much of a physical entity anymore. No swinging tires for me.
 
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