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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 04:03 PM
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disc brake upgrade

another disc brake question - found a 77 parts trucks and it has disc brakes but not power disc brakes just has a master cylinder would this set up be ok on a 68 ?
 
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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 05:45 PM
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It would not be for me, mine would have to be power disc. You might keep looking, one will come to you.





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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 06:12 PM
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so what is the difference? why did they make 2 types of disc brakes?
 
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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by SeaBeeCm1
another disc brake question - found a 77 parts trucks and it has disc brakes but not power disc brakes just has a master cylinder would this set up be ok on a 68 ?
I'm doing a retrofit from a 78 to my 70. Gotta use the prop valve from the 77 and an MC from a 73-76 disc-equipped 2WD. Also gotta replace/swap/bend the lines at the MC to be on the opposite side.

There are also slight differences in the location of the hardlines where the mount to the frame at the hoses.

You also need to use the later (D2TA stamping) pitman arm and steering linkages because the geometry will change slightly by using the 77 spindles, radius arms, and I-beams.

EDIT: I am also going power brakes using the MC and booster from a 75 2WD with OEM discs.... the donor had its right front wheel stuffed back to the firewall. It weren't pretty.
 
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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 06:50 PM
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You can use everything from the donor you just won't have power but you can add that later if desired. You will have to change the master when you put the power booster on. If the pric is right I would do the swap all the while shopping for a power booster and master.
 
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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 07:04 PM
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without the booster the disc brakes should be better than the drum brakes right
 
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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by SeaBeeCm1
without the booster the disc brakes should be better than the drum brakes right
IMO, power discs and better than manual discs and manual discs are better than drums.

However, a set of well adjusted drums can perform well... in the dry. The reason I don't like front drums is after a while they pull to one side or the other, are really susceptible to fade, don't work very well in the wet, and require periodic adjustment and cleaning.

Discs? Set it pretty much forget it. They're self adjusting and wet rotors can be dried with a light ride of the whoa pedal. Simple, proven, and fewer moving parts.

You can use everything from the donor....
ND stated there were a bazillion combinations of pedal arms to master cylinders - different mounting and fulcrum points. I was in the yard and happened upon a 70 when I found the 75. I compared the brake pedal arms and fulcrum points and they were the same. This led me to conclude with certainty that the 75's MC/booster would fit perfectly in my 70. Using that as a basis, I compared 75's PNs and found that the same MC/booster combo was used in 73-76 2WDs with OEM discs.

Lastly, you'll also need the bracket btwn the booster and firewall cuz the booster is mounted higher up on the firewall..
 
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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 10:48 PM
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Technically he doesn't need to change his master if doing manual discs. As many people that do this swap I am kinda shocked a member here or somebody hasn't started fabbing up booster mounts. Hint, hint. Realistically there can't be that many variations. I would think slotting the mounting points would allow for vertical adjustment making it usable for many applications.
 
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I did a 77 disc brake set up and a 79 mastercylinder bracket m/c and booster for the brake pedel I found one out of a 77 that was power brakes.The 79 pedel has the hole to mount it to the brake booster in a different spot and made the pedal close to the floor.You can use your original brake pedal it will be high off the floor I believe. I had a 72 power brake pedel in mine and it was high off the floor probably could redrill a hole to make it better.
 
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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 07:31 AM
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awsome thanks to all again - also is the proportioning valves different from manual to power disc brakes
 
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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 10:35 AM
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no. there only used for disc /drum to decrease the amount off preasure to one of them.Master cylinders are different bores sizes are for drum/drum to disc/drum
 
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