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Old Oct 18, 2011 | 02:54 AM
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As far as I know, there are still only two options. You can either get a tune with Ford's latest induction heating strategy (if you have trouble with cold starts, or live somewhere really cold), or you can get a tune with PHP's 'hybrid' heating strategy. Either way, the FICM is getting tuned.

All of the other options listed on the website are for ECM tuning, which they can do in conjunction with FICM tuning. I'm already running custom SCT tunes though, so I'm just going with the FICM. Cost is $150. I'm on the waiting list for the remote tuner.

That may very well be. I may have misinterpreted what I was reading as far as HP ratings and those tunes being for the ECM. The FICM programming doesn't add any power, it just really smooths out the delivery. I think you'll be amazed with the difference. I still swear up and down it was the best $125 (even if it would have been $150) I've spent.
 
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Old Oct 18, 2011 | 08:14 AM
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I'm really looking forward to finding out. I got the email yesterday that they have a tuner ready for me, so hopefully I'll be getting it delivered early next week and can test the difference firsthand!
 
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Old Oct 18, 2011 | 09:22 PM
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Sorry to bring this post up again, but I realized that I forgot to ask a few questions back at the beginning...

Mainly, how is it that this turbo is cheaper than the stock turbo? Also, what is different about the powermax that keeps the veins from sticking in the long run? Will I notice any better performance over the stock turbo (running Gearhead SCT tunes), or just lower EGTs?
 
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Old Oct 18, 2011 | 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by TexasA&M
Sorry to bring this post up again, but I realized that I forgot to ask a few questions back at the beginning...

Mainly, how is it that this turbo is cheaper than the stock turbo? Also, what is different about the powermax that keeps the veins from sticking in the long run? Will I notice any better performance over the stock turbo (running Gearhead SCT tunes), or just lower EGTs?
I'm not sure how they're cheaper. I don't think mine was when I bought it, but I know they have been selling A LOT of them. I also don't know what's different about the veins. I noticed more power from my Spartan tunes over the stock turbo, and of course, lower EGTs. I haven't gotten to play with my Gearhead tunes written for the Powermax yet. Also, I have gotten studs installed since I left, so I have a studded Gearhead tune for it waiting on me.
 
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Old Oct 19, 2011 | 04:47 AM
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Originally Posted by TexasA&M
Sorry to bring this post up again, but I realized that I forgot to ask a few questions back at the beginning...

Mainly, how is it that this turbo is cheaper than the stock turbo? Also, what is different about the powermax that keeps the veins from sticking in the long run? Will I notice any better performance over the stock turbo (running Gearhead SCT tunes), or just lower EGTs?
I don't know about the veins but the power is nice.
I ran my regular tunes for a few months and then got them updated for the powermax.
The new tunes helped quit a bit, so will need new updated tunes for the powermax.
I also got my FICM tuned by PHP and that helped and boosted my MPG about 1 1/2-2 mpg.
 
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Old Oct 19, 2011 | 06:08 AM
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I don't know about the veins but the power is nice.
I ran my regular tunes for a few months and then got them updated for the powermax.
The new tunes helped quit a bit, so will need new updated tunes for the powermax.
I also got my FICM tuned by PHP and that helped and boosted my MPG about 1 1/2-2 mpg.
Back when Spartan was promoting FICM tuning with their Phalanx the talk was FICM tuning lead to a decent mpg increase. My FICM is in good shape at the moment. Not sure if I should just have it tuned, or upgraded voltage then tune?
 
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Old Oct 19, 2011 | 11:56 AM
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I have not seen it myself, but I have read that the center section was changed so that there is less contact surface between the center section and the unison ring. This should help to reduce sticking.
 
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Old Oct 19, 2011 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by TexasA&M
Sorry to bring this post up again, but I realized that I forgot to ask a few questions back at the beginning...

Mainly, how is it that this turbo is cheaper than the stock turbo? Also, what is different about the powermax that keeps the veins from sticking in the long run? Will I notice any better performance over the stock turbo (running Gearhead SCT tunes), or just lower EGTs?
I'm guessing here, but I bet the turbo being cheaper is just a "Ford" thing. You can get them almost "anywhere" on the internet cheaper than the stock turbo. Riff Raff has the cheapest that Ive found on an everyday basis.

As far as the vanes go, I've not torn down a powermax to look but I bet that the newest stock turbo's and the powermax have the same modifications done to prevent vane stickage. Extra machining and some kind of proprietary coating on the CHRA from what I've read.
 
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Old Oct 19, 2011 | 03:11 PM
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PHP = Power Hungry Performance. They specialize in FICM tuning for the 6.0. When I got my tune, it was $125. The best $125 I've spent yet. When I got mine, there were only 2 options, mild and something a lot more hard core. Now they have HP ratings assigned to a lot of different tunes. If you talk with them, they can make a good recommendation for your setup. Bill is the man to get a hold of. As far as damage goes, from what I understand having the FICM tuned can actually add some life to the unit itself, as some of issues are sorted out. I've not heard of anyone having any damage resulting from FICM tuning.
Thanks, thats what i needed to hear! Sounds like ill be doing the PHP tune instead of chipping my truck when my bank acount allows
 
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Old Oct 19, 2011 | 03:39 PM
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I think a ficm tune is in order but does any one else tune ficm's besides php?
 
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Old Oct 19, 2011 | 03:52 PM
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Innovative Diesel does, I think PHP has possibly put more work into their FICM tuning though.
 
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Old Oct 19, 2011 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by weekendwarriorfsw32
I think a ficm tune is in order but does any one else tune ficm's besides php?
Innovative Diesel offers mild, moderate, and race versions. Mild is for stock injectors, moderate for modified injectors and race is obvious.
 
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Old Oct 19, 2011 | 04:09 PM
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Sweet! Innovative here I come!
 
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Old Oct 19, 2011 | 04:13 PM
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One thing to keep in mind, is I'm pretty sure Innovative removes all inductive heating, whereas PHP offers different options.
 
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Old Oct 19, 2011 | 04:17 PM
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They completely take the inductive heating out? Is there any threads on the php ficm tune that talks about exactly what goes on?
 
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