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Old Oct 1, 2011 | 08:43 PM
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Exclamation About to pull the trigger (advice please)

I have a 2011 F-250 CC Lariat sitting in my driveway. It's my dealer's last and I offered to take it off their hands.

Highlights: Diesel, 4x4 short bed, 20" OWL polished wheels. No roof, no nav. My price, is a hair over 50. Now that I've had a chance to drive it some, I must say I like the vehicle but it leaves me wanting:

There are no running boards, which seems odd to me. I guess some get shipped that way. The killer for me is no GDO (Homelink); it's also missing clearence lamps. If I'm going to spend this kind of money, what's a few thousand more (or so I think).

I kind of looked over the option groups available while I was at the dealership and I was left confused. They also were a little coy about my question 'so what options' am I missing on this truck?'.

My plan is to return this truck Monday and ask: 'can you locate me a .....'. My question to you all is what do I fill in the blank with?

I can tell you what I don't need: snow plow package, moon roof (I've had one for as long as I care to remember and never user it), fifth wheel prep (I don't have a 5th wheel), Camper pkg, heavy service, Trans PTO.

So as I said in a previous thread, can you help a brother out?
 
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Old Oct 1, 2011 | 08:45 PM
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Dealer added options. Often you can say "Ok, I wil buy the truck. But I'd really like running boards and marker lights. Can you fix that?"

Generally they will say yes.
 
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Old Oct 1, 2011 | 08:56 PM
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Snow plow pkg on both mine its a facotry installed leveling kit. And the ride aint bad!

Clearance lights are looks only; i can take em or leave em.

Running board= mud anchor
 
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Old Oct 1, 2011 | 09:02 PM
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Tell them to add the running boards and clearance lights. Recon sells their covers for $35 so you can update the look later. you can add clearance lights yourself for about $84 like I did a few weeks back.

For homelink, you can find them on eBay for about $100. It's just the little module with a power wire going to it. I would grab a setup off eBay. I've had it for 3yrs on my Expy and never used it...I think I might have programmed it once upon a time.

$50k is alot of money. Who's kidding, that is a butt-ton of money. Especially if it doesn't have the stuff you want. You can always add stuff later, but it'll cost more if you stick with OEM parts. Brand new pricing gets better package discounts.



Post the VIN # up for us. I'm interested in seeing the build sheet for that truck. For fun, why don't you build a 2011 Lariat on Ford.com and see what options it has vs. what they offer you. Probably the best way to see what it does/doesn't have right now.
 
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Old Oct 1, 2011 | 09:03 PM
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What exactly do you want on the truck Herman? If it will help, I've got the order guide that lists all of the options. I guess it really depends upon two things: What you need in a truck and what you want in a truck. Mine is loaded. It has the Ultimate Package which has some things you obviously don't want.

That said, a couple of things come to mind. First of all, you can negotiate with them to add the running boards for you. Secondly, the visor with the garage door opener is somewhere around ~$200 and can be installed easily. Lastly, if the roof clearance lights are a deal breaker you've got two choices......you can add them yourself which is what some of the guys on here have done, or you can wait and have them find a truck with them already on it.

If it was mine and the clearance lights were a deal breaker, I'd wait and have them locate a truck for me simply because I don't have enough confidence in my skills to install them myself without screwing something up. Plus they're under warranty when installed from the factory.

Aside from that, the options and combinations are seemingly endless. Go to this site:ProFleetSales.com - Professional Fleet Sales of Ford Cars, SUVs and Trucks! and go to the top of the page where it says "Download Center" and you can get a copy of the order guide. Also go here:100% Haggle-Free New Car Price Quotes from Local Dealers - TrueCar and you can build and price a truck and get dealer cost and MSRP. As for the price of the options that truck is missing, the running boards (the optional ones not in the chrome package) are about a $495 option, the GDO is $125, and the clearance lights are around $55. So you're only looking at about $675 difference in cost on another truck that already has all of them. The thing is that while they may find you a truck with those option on it, it may also have some that you don't want.

Your other option is to order a truck the way you want it.
 
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Old Oct 1, 2011 | 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Tylus
Post the VIN # up for us. I'm interested in seeing the build sheet for that truck. For fun, why don't you build a 2011 Lariat on Ford.com and see what options it has vs. what they offer you. Probably the best way to see what it does/doesn't have right now.
After staning on my tippie toes, in the dark, trying to hold a 5 D call maglite, trying to read that dumb *** font, with my half blind eyes... I walked around to the window sticker:

1FT7W2BT9BEC39777
 
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Old Oct 1, 2011 | 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by powerstroke72
What exactly do you want on the truck Herman?
The deal breaker is the Homelink (or whatever it's called these days); however, like some of you said and I suspected, that's an easy add.

I couldn't really care about the clearence lights, but I had them on my old 250 and liked how they looked.

The one thing I'm pretty certain of if the color LCD screen; not that I could give two hoots about Navigation, but rather all the other cool stuff you can do with it.

So what do I want? I hate to say it, but "everything else but those things I don't". That's the only way I know how to answer because of my ignorance.

Now then, I may actually have a good idea of what *can* go into one of these having seen many option sheets; however, what I think I'm asking moreso, based on the vast wealth of experience here, is someone saying: "If you find one with the 'ultimate' package that includes everything else" or "have you considered that if you get X you should also get Y.

For example, I have no intention of plowing snow; however, I didn't realize that this package includes what I perceive to be something like the LLS on my Navigator.

I can tell you one thing: I'm not buying it for towing as I have nothing other than a small utility trailer.

Oh, and one thing I'd really like to have on the truck is a trouble free transmission
 
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Old Oct 1, 2011 | 10:47 PM
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If you really want the factory Nav, I would keep looking until I found a truck that has it. Adding it would be a pain in the butt. The cab lights, homelink, and steps are very easily added, either by the dealer or by you later. The factory steps are a bit expensive, like around $5-600.
 
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Old Oct 1, 2011 | 11:00 PM
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Okay, the Snow Plow Package includes:

SNOW PLOW PREP PACKAGE (473)
Includes:
• Computer selected springs for snowplow application.
• Extra Heavy-Duty Alternator (67D) w/Power Stroke® diesel engine
(Heavy-Duty Alternator with gas engine)


The truck you're looking at has the 3.55 gearing with the electronic locking axle. It works great and can be used in 2WD as well as 4WD. It also has the 20" wheels as you mentioned, the Lariat Interior Group, the White Platinum Metallic Paint, and the 6.7L Diesel.

With the Lariat Interior Package you get:

LARIAT INTERIOR PACKAGE (96L)
Includes:
• Rearview Camera
• Memory Power Heated/Cooled Driver Seat
• Power Heated/Cooled Passenger Seat
• Easy Entry/Exit Memory Seat Feature
• Memory PowerScope™ Trailer Tow Mirrors
• Remote Start System
• Memory Power Adjustable Pedals


It also includes the following standard equipment as part of the Lariat Package:

Powertrain/Functional
• Electronic Shift-on-the-Fly (4x4 only)
Exterior
• Fog Lamps
• Handles – door, body-color
• Mirrors – PowerScope™ Trailer Tow Mirrors
• Reverse Vehicle Aid Sensor
• Wheels
– F-250/F-350 SRW – 18" Premium Cast
Aluminum Wheels w/bright hub
covers/center ornaments
– F-350 DRW – 17" Premium Forged
Aluminum Wheels w/bright hub
covers/center ornaments
• Window – Rear, power-sliding, privacy
glass with defrost
• 5" Chrome Tubular Step Bar (F-350
DRW/F-450)
Interior
• Air conditioning – Dual-Zone Electronic
Automatic Temperature Control (DEATC)
• Door-trim – soft armrest, grab handle, dark
foundry window switch bezel, upper & lower
map pockets & reflector
• Instrumentation – LCD Productivity Screen:
Driver configurable enhanced information
4.2" LCD screen display includes menus for
Gauge Setup, Trip Computer, Fuel
Economy and Towing/Off-Road applications
and five button message control on steering
wheel
• Mirror – Rearview, electrochromic selfdimming
• Power adjustable pedals
• Premium AM/FM stereo w/digital clock,
Single-CD/MP3 player, 8-speakers &
subwoofer
• Seats
– Front, premium leather, seating
surfaces 40/Console/40
– 10-way Power driver & front-passenger
seats (6-way power-adjustable-track, 2-
way power recline and 2-way power
lumbar)
– 110v/150w inverter outlet in rear
console
• Steering wheel – color-coordinated leatherwrapped,
five button message control,
redundant audio & SYNC® controls
• SIRIUS® Satellite Radio
• Sun visors – color-coordinated vinyl, single
driver w/map strap & covered lighted mirror,
single passenger w/covered lighted mirror
• SYNC® (microphone integrated in
headliner)
Safety/Security
• AutoLock, Auto unlock, Autolamp/rain lamp
• SecuriCode™ keyless-entry keypad



Now this is what is on the truck you're looking at. There are a lot of other options available. The above information is from the link to the order guide I provided above. While it is the 2012 Order Guide, there are very few changes from the 2011 to the 2012 models. The 2012 is supposed to have four-way adjustable headrests and auto up/down front windows. You'll need to look at the options to see if there's anything else available that you want or need on the truck.

With regard to the LCD screens, the one on the Nav unit controls the radio and navigation functions. The one on the dash in the instrument panel is standard on the Lariat and has the functions for all of the truck apps like the "miles to empty", and numerous other functions. If that's what you're referring to, you don't need the Nav system to access those features.

In essence, the Snow Plow Package only gets you the upgraded springs and the extra heavy-duty alternator. The Lariat Ultimate Package gets you a few things in addition to the Lariat Interior Package: Moonroof, Nav system, and the tailgate step.....that's it.

If you're interested in the Chrome Package, it gets you some chrome goodies that total $995. The FX-4 Off Road Package gets you Hill Descent Control, an FX-4 decal on the bedside, skid plates, and Rancho Branded shocks. The Camper Package gets you upgraded front springs, a rear stabilizer bar, a slide-in camper certification, and rear auxiliary springs.

There are a few other things that aren't packaged such as the engine block heater, the Rapid Heat Supplemental Heater, bed extender, tailgate step, bodyside molding, upfitter switches, universal garage door opener, rubber floor mats, and a few others.

You're just really going to have to look over this truck very well to see if you'll be pleased with it in the long run. There are so many combinations available on these trucks, it can get really confusing. I knew what I definitely wanted when I was looking for mine and found it without having to order one. I didn't necessarily want the Chrome Package on it but this one had it and the more I looked at it, the more I liked it. Other than that, it is equipped exactly as I would have ordered it.
 
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if you want Navigation, it's really easy to add to these trucks...at a cost of about $1k. It's sadly cheaper to add navigation than it is to buy packaged on the truck

so if you like the rest of the truck, don't let that kill the deal. You'd need the Nav HU, the GPS module and then basically plug it in. It's almost that simple. Maybe need to get the HU programmed. It's worth asking the Dealership to add to the truck

The Dealer can order the Homelink visor as well for you. 1 simple keyed 12v hot wire and it's working



I think if you are happy with the truck as is, see what they'll do to make you happier. Your list of must haves isn't hard to meet at all.







have you looked at a used 2010 by chance? a nice low mileage should still have upwards of 2yr on bumper to bumper warranty, and of course the 5yr/100k motor warranty. it'd be a ton cheaper
 
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Old Oct 2, 2011 | 05:34 PM
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First off, I think I'm gonna pass on *this* truck, unless they can add Nav and GDO. Based on John's (very excellent thank you) post, it seems that those two things are the only things I'm missing and I'm not missing much not having the Lariat ultimate package as I have no desire for a moon roof and no need for a tailgate step. I would however need cab steps / running boards. Don't know what my choices there are but we'll see.

As far as getting used (Tylus), that's where I started, but didn't seem to find one. (I mean I don't know how much you're thinking I'd save, but if it wasn't 10G I probably wouldn't take it).

It will be an interesting morning as this dealer's owner is my neighbor and when I tell them I'll be passing, I wonder what they'll try to do to make the sale happen.
 
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Old Oct 3, 2011 | 04:14 PM
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Back in the saddle 1FT7W2BT1BEC33102 on it's way from Chicago.
 
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Very nice. She's got everything on your wish list. Dang I'm so jealous of youse louts.

Edit: now that you got the GDO, I hope she fits in your garage.
 
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Old Oct 3, 2011 | 06:24 PM
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Awesome truck Herman.....congratulations! Coincidentally, it's almost identical to the one I test drove at my dealer prior to getting mine. From an equipment standpoint, it's almost identical to mine. Gorgeous color combination.
 
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Congrats Herman! Glad you didn't settle, you'd have always be questioning your decision. Now it looks like you won't have to. Looks like a nice truck on paper, post pics when it shows up.
 
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