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Old Sep 16, 2011 | 09:55 PM
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Does anybody know what the idle rpm should be on a 1993 F150 supercab 302 EFI 5spd manual I'm fighting an idle issue and maybe i am just thinking it should be lower than it actually should be??
 
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Old Sep 16, 2011 | 10:52 PM
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What is it idling at? I'm not sure on the specifics to a 93, but I think 600-800 is considered normal. You might also want to make sure your tach is operating properly.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2011 | 10:13 AM
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well between 750 and 1000 I can just tell b ear and tach that it is higher after the last repairs i did.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2011 | 10:28 AM
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I believe the proper idle is 600 for a manual trans and 650 on auto trans or that might be backwards
 
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Old Sep 18, 2011 | 12:15 AM
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well between 750 and 1000 I can just tell b ear and tach that it is higher after the last repairs i did.
Well, what repairs did you make? Are you certain you didn't accidentally leave a vacuum line unhooked? I've often left the PCV valve unhooked when I've had to remove the upper intake in the past, and that causes a jump in idle speed.
 
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Old Sep 21, 2011 | 08:27 PM
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Everything is connected a it should be Took it in for tire rotation and balance today and had that shop try to find the problem. Their mechanic said it should idle around 1000 rpm. I swear this is much higher than it use to be. perhaps it was just too low before the new parts (EGR and manifold tube, MAP sensor, cap rotor) were installed. Does anybody know for sure what the idle speed should be 93 F150 302 EFI 5spd manual
 
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Old Sep 21, 2011 | 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by tsarge78
Everything is connected a it should be Took it in for tire rotation and balance today and had that shop try to find the problem. Their mechanic said it should idle around 1000 rpm. I swear this is much higher than it use to be. perhaps it was just too low before the new parts (EGR and manifold tube, MAP sensor, cap rotor) were installed. Does anybody know for sure what the idle speed should be 93 F150 302 EFI 5spd manual
i know for my 351W EFI 4spd automatic it should be idling right around 500-600. that mechanic dosent know what he's talking about. 1000rpm is way to high for our motors. it should be no higher than 700rpm.
 
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Old Sep 21, 2011 | 09:28 PM
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There's no way it should be 1000rpm the TC is locking up at that speed, you need warm idle down around 550-600rpm.
 
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Ya Thats what I say it use to be about 600 rpm!! So any thought as to why it is staying higher?? Checked TPS readings come out fine. put a new IAC and it actually went higher, so I put the old one back on.
 
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Old Sep 21, 2011 | 09:41 PM
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Ya Thats what I say it use to be about 600 rpm!! So any thought as to why it is staying higher?? Checked TPS readings come out fine. put a new IAC and it actually went higher, so I put the old one back on.
sounds like your computers going wonky on you. go to ford and get it reprogrammed.
 
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Old Sep 21, 2011 | 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by srsparky32
sounds like your computers going wonky on you. go to ford and get it reprogrammed.

Hmmmm..... brilliant!!!! I wasn't aware this was possible. What do you suppose that would cost??
 
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These computers are not reporgrammable and that's a far reaching conclusion to make based on the info we have. I suggest you start by pulling the codes to see if anything is flagged, if not good but if something is then fix whatever you need to fix to clear that problem and you may just fix the high idle problem too. Incidentally you said the TPS measurements are good.. what were the measurements? When the EGR was replaced were the vacuum lines reattached correctly? If you didn't do this work yourself you're going to have to verify everything, because this vintage truck is a complete UFO to most shop mechanics these days.. unless they come from a background working on them they will have no knowledge, training, documentation, or diagnostic tools to help them fix your problem.
 
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Old Sep 21, 2011 | 10:04 PM
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These computers are not reporgrammable and that's a far reaching conclusion to make based on the info we have. I suggest you start by pulling the codes to see if anything is flagged, if not good but if something is then fix whatever you need to fix to clear that problem and you may just fix the high idle problem too. Incidentally you said the TPS measurements are good.. what were the measurements? When the EGR was replaced were the vacuum lines reattached correctly? If you didn't do this work yourself you're going to have to verify everything, because this vintage truck is a complete UFO to most shop mechanics these days.. unless they come from a background working on them they will have no knowledge, training, documentation, or diagnostic tools to help them fix your problem.

I pulled codes last weekend and engine off it passed-no codes engine running came up with I believe code 41? Anyway it was pointing towards the O2 sensor, HEGO something or rather. But some have said this should not effect idle. pulled sensor anyway cleaned it looked fine to me put it back in. Your thoughts?? Also i have checked rechecked and triple checked all the vacuum lines and routing etc all good.
 
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Old Sep 21, 2011 | 10:06 PM
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I pulled codes last weekend and engine off it passed-no codes engine running came up with I believe code 41? Anyway it was pointing towards the O2 sensor, HEGO something or rather. But some have said this should not effect idle. pulled sensor anyway cleaned it looked fine to me put it back in. Your thoughts?? Also i have checked rechecked and triple checked all the vacuum lines and routing etc all good.

Also TPS measurments were 1.0 volt throttle closed 4.9-5.0volts fully opened and resistance was about 500ohms closed and 3500ohms or so open
 
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Old Sep 21, 2011 | 10:53 PM
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i thought the computers were reprogrammable? i hear talk about getting something reprogrammed if there are idle problems. can anybody pipe up and tell me what it is? im sure it would help this guy.
 
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