Front axle knuckle seal dust cover...
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Front axle knuckle seal dust cover...
Does anyone what the part number is for this, or if it's even available? The seal that goes into the steering knuckle has another metal seal/dust cover behind it that is pressed on as well. Mine got mangled trying to get one of the axles out a while back and I was hoping to take it back apart and replace it since I do a lot of driving on sand. If you look at the attached image, it's where the red arrows are pointing:
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I believe you want part number F81Z-3254-CB. $30 to $50 each depending on where you buy it.
You'll need a special seal driver to install it properly. Those cost around $60 or you can build one out of 1-1/4" pipe parts like this one:
Its an 8" pipe, a cap, and a flange. The flange needs a little grinding to fit.
Good luck!
You'll need a special seal driver to install it properly. Those cost around $60 or you can build one out of 1-1/4" pipe parts like this one:
Its an 8" pipe, a cap, and a flange. The flange needs a little grinding to fit.
Good luck!
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That one I have, same tool setup and all. What I'm referring to is actually still attached to the axle shown. If you look at the area where you would normally press that knuckle seal on, the back side of the knuckle seal butts up against that little metal ring. It's actually pressed on the axle first, then the knuckle seal goes on. Barring buying a new axle stub, I'm not sure that's a part that can be bought separately. It's just a thin piece of stamped sheet metal that acts as a guard for the back side of that seal that faces the u-joint for the axle. It's hard to see in the pics, but this image may help a little better:
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Yeah, that's kind of what I figured. There is no part number on it anywhere, and I'm assuming whoever is supplying the axles to Ford presses them on before they are shipped. I'm usually pretty good at finding things online, but this one has eluded me for a while now. If I manage to track it down I'll post up a source in case anyone does like me and bangs theirs up.
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Yeah, that's kind of what I figured. There is no part number on it anywhere, and I'm assuming whoever is supplying the axles to Ford presses them on before they are shipped. I'm usually pretty good at finding things online, but this one has eluded me for a while now. If I manage to track it down I'll post up a source in case anyone does like me and bangs theirs up.
Hope this helps in your quest for knowledge...
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Thanks for the insight on the subject. The more we know, the better.
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Part of Front Axle Outer Seal
That metal piece which sits between the knuckle and hub bearing assembly is part of the "Front Axle Outer Seal" aka Large Knuckle Seal or Oil Seal
Here are part numbers for these Ford 2004-2003 vehicles:
Excursion, F-250 Super Duty, F-350 Super Duty, F-450 Super Duty, F-550 Super Duty
In order to change that seal, you can attempt not to damage the metal piece / dust cover to which you refer and replace the seal with one without the dust cover (re-using the old one):
Dana Spicer part # 50491
Napa part # NOS 28600
OR
The preferred / recommended option - remove the entire seal (including the metal back) from the axle shaft (yes, it does come off).
Here are some part numbers for the seal including the back dust cover:
Motorcraft part # 3C3Z3254CA
National Oil Seal / Timken part # 710494
Napa part # NOS 28603
When replacing the seal:
Use either a Ford shaft installation tool (Part # OTC 6695)
OR
Make an axle seal installation tool.
http://www.superdutypsd.com/axle_seal_tool.php
Here are cautions/notes when using the homemade tool:
1. When purchasing the floor flange, ensure that the back side is flat. At the hardware store, place it on the relatively flat floor and see if it wobbles.
2. The flange must fit inside the metal ring (on the side which faces outside). So, verify how much or if you need to grind down the floor flange to fit. If you do not do this, you may (most likely) damage the seal.
3. The seal can be pushed in too far. To help prevent this, you could screw in a short piece of pipe on the back/flat side of the flange.
NOTE: I just replaced my ball joints, front axle universal joints, bearings, & most other steering/suspension components on my 2004 F-250 FX4 Crew Cab SRW... Originally, I thought that the front axle seal was just the black part. By going to the auto parts store (and looking at the actual seal) and Moog Problem Solver website, I discovered the seal includes the metal dust cover you pin pointed.
Thanks to this & other sites which helped me complete this myself.
I know this is an older post; however, I hope this helps others.
Here are part numbers for these Ford 2004-2003 vehicles:
Excursion, F-250 Super Duty, F-350 Super Duty, F-450 Super Duty, F-550 Super Duty
In order to change that seal, you can attempt not to damage the metal piece / dust cover to which you refer and replace the seal with one without the dust cover (re-using the old one):
Dana Spicer part # 50491
Napa part # NOS 28600
OR
The preferred / recommended option - remove the entire seal (including the metal back) from the axle shaft (yes, it does come off).
Here are some part numbers for the seal including the back dust cover:
Motorcraft part # 3C3Z3254CA
National Oil Seal / Timken part # 710494
Napa part # NOS 28603
When replacing the seal:
Use either a Ford shaft installation tool (Part # OTC 6695)
OR
Make an axle seal installation tool.
http://www.superdutypsd.com/axle_seal_tool.php
Here are cautions/notes when using the homemade tool:
1. When purchasing the floor flange, ensure that the back side is flat. At the hardware store, place it on the relatively flat floor and see if it wobbles.
2. The flange must fit inside the metal ring (on the side which faces outside). So, verify how much or if you need to grind down the floor flange to fit. If you do not do this, you may (most likely) damage the seal.
3. The seal can be pushed in too far. To help prevent this, you could screw in a short piece of pipe on the back/flat side of the flange.
NOTE: I just replaced my ball joints, front axle universal joints, bearings, & most other steering/suspension components on my 2004 F-250 FX4 Crew Cab SRW... Originally, I thought that the front axle seal was just the black part. By going to the auto parts store (and looking at the actual seal) and Moog Problem Solver website, I discovered the seal includes the metal dust cover you pin pointed.
Thanks to this & other sites which helped me complete this myself.
I know this is an older post; however, I hope this helps others.
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VaHkGuy, thanks! I haven't gone in there in a long time as I haven't had ball joint/hub bearing problems, but I just started getting a squeak from the passenger side recently. I may be replacing something in there soon, and it'll be nice to replace that dust cover as well. Reps sent.
Still left - rear end service, drive shaft universal joints, drive shaft center support bearing, drive belt, Bully Dog cold air intake...
Yes, it's overboard; however, I enjoy learning how my vehicles work, how to do different things, & ensuring their longevity.