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What would be the likely hood that my old sticking turbo could hide an injector issue.
I have a Banks cooler on it and if its contaminated and cant be flushed I'll have to pay big $$ for another one.
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Thinking/typing out loud here... Why would you have to replace the intercooler if it's got oil in it? With the exception of the folks that have done the CCV reroute/filtered mod to their trucks...pretty much everyone has oil in their intercooler from the vapor condensation. Maybe I'm looking at it the wrong way and the oil vapor & condensation is a bad thing.
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I was typing out loud there as well. Just trying to look at everything it could be. I too have a BD CCV reroute which has been great and I drain it every 3 months or so and get about a 1/2 cup or so of oil out of it so its working.
Just speculating I guess, but I think everyone is on the right track when they say injector. Its my fault for not driving it, but thats gonna change.
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Just speculating I guess, but I think everyone is on the right track when they say injector. Its my fault for not driving it, but thats gonna change.
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I was typing out loud there as well. Just trying to look at everything it could be. I too have a BD CCV reroute which has been great and I drain it every 3 months or so and get about a 1/2 cup or so of oil out of it so its working.
Just speculating I guess, but I think everyone is on the right track when they say injector. Its my fault for not driving it, but thats gonna change.
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Just speculating I guess, but I think everyone is on the right track when they say injector. Its my fault for not driving it, but thats gonna change.
Sarge
AFA oil in the intercooler causing that type of smoke it would have to have a HUGE amount of blow by. I'm talking like looking like a steam locomotive out the oil fill pipe.
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Its like a greyish blue...its kinda hard to tell but Im thinking mostly grey. Either way its going back into the shop Monday after I do what I have to do with it this weekend.
It definately smells like diesel too, its not like it was when the oil/egr coolers failed, that was a constant stream of white smoke all the time. This will only smoke when you pull away from a stop, it clears up and doesnt smoke again until you stop. Its almost like a 2 stroke loading up is the best way I can describe it. I have to use it tonight to pick up my trailer so I can get my tractor in the am so I will try to see what color the smoke is when I have someone behind me with light on.
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It definately smells like diesel too, its not like it was when the oil/egr coolers failed, that was a constant stream of white smoke all the time. This will only smoke when you pull away from a stop, it clears up and doesnt smoke again until you stop. Its almost like a 2 stroke loading up is the best way I can describe it. I have to use it tonight to pick up my trailer so I can get my tractor in the am so I will try to see what color the smoke is when I have someone behind me with light on.
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The smoke is definately grey in color, maybe a slight hint of blue but Im not sure if its just alittle of the reflection off the blacktop shining through the smoke.
Like I said driving along no smoke, slow to a stop roll on the throttle a puff maybe a second, pull up to a stop light/stop sign huge cloud of smoke, comes out the tail pipe for 5-10 seconds, stinks like raw fuel.
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Like I said driving along no smoke, slow to a stop roll on the throttle a puff maybe a second, pull up to a stop light/stop sign huge cloud of smoke, comes out the tail pipe for 5-10 seconds, stinks like raw fuel.
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Well,
I dropped the truck off Sunday night for Monday appointment. I've been busy myself here at the shop so I havent heard from the folks at the dealer, called them but my writer wasnt there. They guy I talked to had no idea what was going on with my truck just that they billed some fuel additive.
I hope they dont tell me nothing is wrong, or something is wrong with the fuel, I just put fresh fuel in it, 50 gallons, so I hope they're not gonna blame the fuel...I know it not the fuel.
I will update tomorrow when I talk to the writer I normally deal with and see if I can get an answer or two.
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I dropped the truck off Sunday night for Monday appointment. I've been busy myself here at the shop so I havent heard from the folks at the dealer, called them but my writer wasnt there. They guy I talked to had no idea what was going on with my truck just that they billed some fuel additive.
I hope they dont tell me nothing is wrong, or something is wrong with the fuel, I just put fresh fuel in it, 50 gallons, so I hope they're not gonna blame the fuel...I know it not the fuel.
I will update tomorrow when I talk to the writer I normally deal with and see if I can get an answer or two.
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Well,
I heard from the dealer yesterday...the good news is I can go and pick my truck up, the bad news is they cant tell me what is going on with it. They are sure its a fuel system problem, but the writer told me that FORD wont just replace an injector on suspision (sp), that it was an act of congress to get an injector covered withut hard evidence of failure.
I have a few questions for the experts...Is there a way I can, with my AE, or the dealer can turn the fuel off to each cyliner and tell that way what injector (s) are causing the smoke?
If I fix this myself by replacing all the injectors, what should I buy, and when you answer that question keep in mind I will be upgrading to a Power Maxx sometime in the near future.
Last question is who should I buy injectors from?
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I heard from the dealer yesterday...the good news is I can go and pick my truck up, the bad news is they cant tell me what is going on with it. They are sure its a fuel system problem, but the writer told me that FORD wont just replace an injector on suspision (sp), that it was an act of congress to get an injector covered withut hard evidence of failure.
I have a few questions for the experts...Is there a way I can, with my AE, or the dealer can turn the fuel off to each cyliner and tell that way what injector (s) are causing the smoke?
If I fix this myself by replacing all the injectors, what should I buy, and when you answer that question keep in mind I will be upgrading to a Power Maxx sometime in the near future.
Last question is who should I buy injectors from?
Sarge
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AE does have the option to turn off injectors one at a time which will also allow you to do a mass fuel desired test. It also has the contribution balance test that's one of the "automatic" options. I thought I had saved the MFD test but maybe Cheezit can send you the testing procedure.
Injectors.......that's almost like an oil thread Sarge--LOL. I only recommend Ryan Casserly because he makes his injectors from "new"/reman Motorcraft injectors but they are pricey. His customer service is second to none.
The PM is a great turbo choice. You don't necessariy have to go bigger injectors to get it to "run" correctly but I do recommend that you have the proper tuning. You can make a TON of power with stock injectors and considering that you tow regularly that might be your best choice.
Injectors.......that's almost like an oil thread Sarge--LOL. I only recommend Ryan Casserly because he makes his injectors from "new"/reman Motorcraft injectors but they are pricey. His customer service is second to none.
The PM is a great turbo choice. You don't necessariy have to go bigger injectors to get it to "run" correctly but I do recommend that you have the proper tuning. You can make a TON of power with stock injectors and considering that you tow regularly that might be your best choice.
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I did a contribution test and so did the dealer. They know it needs and injector(s), but becuase there is no failure they say FORD will deny the claim. I was planning on an upgrade, but not this soon.
The truck runs great, but I cant stand the smoke so I guess I will have to replace them all and do the upgrde now.
I know that was a loaded question, but Im like one of those guys that figures you pay a little for cheap parts and have to keep doing the job over and over, or you buy the good stuff once and your done.
Anything else I should do while Im in there?
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The truck runs great, but I cant stand the smoke so I guess I will have to replace them all and do the upgrde now.
I know that was a loaded question, but Im like one of those guys that figures you pay a little for cheap parts and have to keep doing the job over and over, or you buy the good stuff once and your done.
Anything else I should do while Im in there?
Sarge
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If so, could you just check the temp with a cheap laser temp reader at each port to the manifold and see if one is cooler?
I thought I read that somewhere
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Ok so I am absolutly tired of the smoke, and I have to say not to happy with the dealer telling me there is nothing they can do. So my warranty will run out soon anyway and I did get the turbo fixed I am just going to replace the injectors myself. I dont even want to drive this thing it smokes like a whooped out hooptie.
So I am oing to call up Casserly in the morning see what they have to say/recomend for the tye of use my truck sees. I may even bite the bullet and order the Power Max too.
Its very disapointing that FORD wont repair the truck because the injkector doesnt fail any tests but they know they are bad. And also if it, they, did fail that it would be an acto of congress to get them to warrnty it anyway.
Rant over, is there anything else I should consider replacing/upgrading while I have the valve covers of for the injector replacement?
Sarge
So I am oing to call up Casserly in the morning see what they have to say/recomend for the tye of use my truck sees. I may even bite the bullet and order the Power Max too.
Its very disapointing that FORD wont repair the truck because the injkector doesnt fail any tests but they know they are bad. And also if it, they, did fail that it would be an acto of congress to get them to warrnty it anyway.
Rant over, is there anything else I should consider replacing/upgrading while I have the valve covers of for the injector replacement?
Sarge