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Old Sep 3, 2011 | 10:50 AM
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help died at stoplight!!

lost power no gauges turns over no crank......wifey bitchin all the way to pick me up....getting manual for fuses anything else i need to look for ....cps? checked the harness on valve cover....seem tight.....
 
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Old Sep 3, 2011 | 11:33 AM
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ignition switch possibly.... basically no power at all to instrument panel as well as ac controls on the dash....f
 

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general ignition fuses and such checked out ok....batterys tight....basically died when driving down road would crankshaft position sensor give you a no power to dash? I am leaning toward ignition switch but any other possible diagnoses would be helpful....
 
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Old Sep 3, 2011 | 11:59 AM
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Sounds like the notorious steering column short. There is a wire in the steering columns that get rubbed and eventually shorts out. I have personally had this problem, easy fix. Do a search for steering column short or something like that. You should have a blown fuse under the dash, forget which one. Someone more knowledgeable will chime in maybe with a link.
 
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Old Sep 3, 2011 | 12:10 PM
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hope so.....and soon!!! truck sitting at bank parking lot and tropical depression heading into jackson soon!! lotta rain coming
 
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Old Sep 3, 2011 | 12:24 PM
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Look at fuse #s 45 for OD over ride and 64 PCM /fuel bowl heater
 
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Old Sep 3, 2011 | 01:14 PM
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all fuses good....towed home thank god only 2 miles 62 bucks now the fun starts....btw.. i do have headlights only turning over and no instrument panel gauges checked and unhooked batteries and let them sit a few minutes still nothing...still think its gonna be that shifter wire? I have a tuner with a scanner around just gotta find it, see if i can get any codes which I doubt i will but gotta start somewhere...

and after thinking and cursing, I looked on the bright side....1. only 1 mile from home 2. tropical depression coming in and instead of 100 degrees plus, its only 84 outside!!!
 
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Old Sep 3, 2011 | 01:25 PM
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just put my scanner on the system... turned key on for the diagnostic to start but did not read the scanner ( it just sat there stating to turn key on to start diagnostics) so I am assuming it is in the ignition system... just another piece of the puzzle to add to narrow things down...
 
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Old Sep 3, 2011 | 02:21 PM
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pulled steering cover off pretty easy inspected the said shifter wire and it looks good....ignition switch next culprit possibly?
 
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What kind of scanner are you using?

No gauges/no OBDII port/no start sounds like fuel bowl heater fuse to me. Don't bother to check the fuse; just pull the wire off the fuel bowl heater, leave it off, and then replace the fuse with a new one. IIRC it's 30A amp at position 116 on the panel. Do not plug the heater wire back on until you get a good look at the heater element to see if it is shorted.

And enjoy the good weather while it lasts.
 
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pulled that fuse and looked real close.... sure enough blown...gonna take a look at that heater wire...any where in particular in the bay to look by....need to put my ignition back in in the meantime...
 
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Old Sep 3, 2011 | 06:27 PM
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heater is in the fuel bowl...very common to short out. i think...its a yellow plug in the back of the fuel bowl. i know its in the back...but i think its yellow. i live in the northeast and have had mine unplugged since it shorted...has not caused any cold start problems...even in the winter
 
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Originally Posted by brownie83
heater is in the fuel bowl...very common to short out. i think...its a yellow plug in the back of the fuel bowl. i know its in the back...but i think its yellow. i live in the northeast and have had mine unplugged since it shorted...has not caused any cold start problems...even in the winter
Yup, unplug it and replace the fuse, and get a FORD heater to replace it.

The biggest reason to replace the heater is so small frozen particles don;t plug your fuel filter and you don't want a short in the electrical system.

You CAN run without the heater.... but you risk getting stuck with a plugged fuel filter. And in my experience don;t waste your money on an aftermarket heater.
 
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well i unplugged something by the heater beside the IPR solenoid white 2 pronged connector....replaced fuse....gauges came to life cranked and ran for 2 seconds died and blew the fuse again....guess it wasnt the right plug perhaps? only 2 i see in that area around the fuel bowl....the plug and wires looked ok... anyway to check volts/ohms on that system? i have a volt/ohm meter but not very electrically inclined
 
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Originally Posted by nookiemonster55
well i unplugged something by the heater beside the IPR solenoid white 2 pronged connector....replaced fuse....gauges came to life cranked and ran for 2 seconds died and blew the fuse again....guess it wasnt the right plug perhaps? only 2 i see in that area around the fuel bowl....

It is in the very back/bottom of the fuel bowl itself. I can get a pic if needed.
 
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