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As far as I understand, this would probably be due to the "de-tuning" that Jody does upon start up. Basically the truck is "de-tuned" until oil temps hit 150*... I believe this is to keep from doing damage to the motor, I'm not real sure though.

back on topic, I have only run DP but I can tell you I am very happy with it. No smoke in 80e, my 120 race tune smokes when I smash the skinny pedal. Haven't gotten a chance to tow anything of significance yet, couple more weeks and we'll find out how she does! Like the others have said, I am sure you will be very happy with any of the various tuners out there, they all seem to be very knowledgeable in what they do

 

I'm going to try and avoid getting banned here so lets just be factual.

Ask your tuner how the TPS is ramped up...

People think there tuner is more powerful then others because they have to push the throttle down further... Its not more power, its the way a tuner adjusts things.

Myself, I prefer to have 5% of throttle at 5%. Some like to have 25% at 5%.

Thats the differance.

I have run about everyones tunes out there, only ones I have not run are Cales and PHP...

Other then what I said above I can not comment or I will get banned.

 

A loud motor is NOT detuned... A loud motor has added timing.

 

I knew someone smart would have better info. My motor is kind of loud at start up, however it lacks power upon cold starts. Clay said that it was because DP "de-tunes" until oil temps see 150*. I am running stage I sticks though, so that could be the reason for the louder "cackle"

 

that is what i'm looking for i dont want my motor to sound like that when cold. and the dp looks like it smokes more. thanks for the info.

 

My stock service truck is also loud at startup, so the factory programming must call for a advanced timing as well. I might add it is an '07 6.0. To the op, any of the tuners out there can meet your goals, all are better if you/them have the opportunity to live tune.

 

When I had Jody update my tunes, it became quieter. Not sure what it means but there it is. Supposedly, he makes changes based on what he learns.

Still, I had a certain issue that it had a dead spot and I had him increase it slowly. Point is, the tuners can do what you want them to do. You just have to ask for it. I hated the Tow Tunes but I also know that the shift of the trans is better for towing and I use the 80E whenever I can because of the way it shifts.

Here is the way I see it. There is nobody who has been able to distinguish themselves from the pack. Besides, if you ask for a 60 Tow tune, you have just set the cut off point. So, what else is left but "I don't like the way this feels"? If you don't like the way something feels, simply call the tuner and have them change it. If you bought a set of contact lenses and it wasn't the way you like but it was the way in the lab, what do you do? Go back to the optometrist or do you take it as it is and gripe?

I liked the push button instead of the rotary dial. Now with the F6, I don't have to send it back. So unless a tuner can show me he can go way above the rest, what is the point of choice? Choice is good only if it is meaningful choice. Choice just to have it is meaningless especially when any tuner can tailor it to the way you want if the first offering isn't to your liking.

 

... or old oil, or a bad CPS, or SS injectors, or a lot of other things. Joe, you are smarter than this. Put down the mouse, back away from the keyboard and save yourself. You worked too hard to come back to let yourself go out like this again.

 

I also heard that Jody "de-tunes" the truck while it warms up to get the oil to operating temperature.

I'm no scientist, but here is my logic.

Oil is thicker when its cold. If your truck uses more power, it cycles the oil more. If it cycles the cold oil, thats more work on the pump, and the ticker oil causes the motor to bog down because of that. If you wait for the oil to reach operating temperature before you apply a lot of power, it will reduce the strain on the pump and associated parts.

Not saying that that is fact, just saying its my logic.

 

I have to put in my vote for BTS tunes. I have 25% throttle at 25% pedal 50% at 50% etc, I have stock shift points, and I can hear my exhaust...not the timing.
Very refined, and smooth.

 

That is one think I dont like about the DP.. The pedal is wayyy touchy.

 

Is that in the Tow tunes or what tunes? I wanted faster for my Tow tunes but was warned that it wasn't the best for towing.

 

They can change that and do with the Tow tunes vs the Econo. Why didn't you tell them what you wanted and let them change it?

 

I will when I send it back in. I dont want it completely gone, just tuned down a bit.