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Sgrol,
The 6.7 doesn't use sleeves and has 6 head bolts per cyl. I call bogus. I came out of a 2001 7.3 that I owned since new and absolutely was a member of the family. The 2011 I've had about 8 mos. and it's won me over. 400/800 is addicting especially since it avgs. about +1 mpg across the board. Have no fear when you are ready.
Ok, this may be boggus info but my son, who drives a Duramax, was talking to a Dodge Diesel tech the other day and the tech said the new Ford 6.7s were having problems with piston sleeves detaching from the block and stretching the head bolts causing the head gaskets to blow. I have searched the forum and found no evidence of this but thought I would throw this out to see if there is any truth to this.
Sounds like a conversation between two C and D brand fans discussing the latest 'PowerJoke' and hoping/wishing for problems. Bogus, indeed. Gotta throw that one back to ya!
I'm like Rick Cargo. My local dealer mechanic told me at my last oil change that he has yet to turn a wrench on a 6.7 engine. This dealer sells lots of trucks to people that have a tendency to abuse them on the farm and in the oilfields. (me included!) No returns yet.
Well...I waited a year to buy one...if one had blown on this board from a FTE member we'd have heard about it....think of the combined miles driven, conditions and what not of the users here....Not to mention the interactions of all of us picking every other new Super Duty driver's brain that we'd come in contact with.........A year ago when they first came out..I know everyone that passed me was smiling and thumbs up!
The only negative I've heard is:
1) Tranny shifting
2) My buddy's new Ford DEF froze up (second hand info, and he probably overfilled it).
3) CEL code.
That's not bad coming from a new motor, with a hell of alot of technology stuck under the hood. My take on it....Ford knew they were under the gun with the past history (6.4 and 6.0), and did plenty of homework to make sure they nailed this one......they couldn't afford to miss again. Someone else said it on a different thread, but I'll say it again, I wouldn't be surprised to see trade in values on the 6.4 and 6.0 drop in the near future.....because Ford got this motor so right.
The onlything I think is blown, is someone blowin' hot air....not to say someone hasn't popped one at a Truck pull or something, but not under normal operating conditions.
Just my take on this but a company with a fleet of trucks (or cars for that fact) is going to have quite a few issues with motors, transmissions, etc because of the fact they get treated like a rental car. Stomp and romp to get to the next location.
The Dodge rhetoric will be ratcheted up considerably now that the latest published dyno results for all three engines have been posted. The new HO Cummins did not do well...maybe the HO stands for Hot Air...
Evidence of this has started to show up at RVnet where the old Dodge guard has returned to dragging out 6.0 bashing, cab lifting and old truck resale values to rationalize their purchase decision and brand loyalty. It has been both fun and painful to watch them self destruct. Payback is a bummer...
Just my take on this but a company with a fleet of trucks (or cars for that fact) is going to have quite a few issues with motors, transmissions, etc because of the fact they get treated like a rental car. Stomp and romp to get to the next location.
Sometimes...
I remember Dim Sum telling me his work F350s with the 6.0 were beat up all day long and never had any troubles. Modern diesels are built to be worked, and many issues that plagued the 6.0L, such as clogged EGR valves and stuck turbo veins, can be attributed to driving it easy. Diesels LOVE to make boost and run the best when properly exercised!
Other abuse isn't good though. Extended idling, WOT when cold, shifting gears while moving, and other things like that are terrible for trucks.
First off I do not own one of these fine trucks (can't afford one of them lol). But I do drive a truck with their great, great, great, great..... grandfather. I also hear all the bashing of the new 6.7 from buddies with duraturds and dummins. I always remind them that from the beginning Ford was whooping up on them with a n/a IDI while they all ran turboes to get thier power. So keep the legend alive boys and girls and make us owners of the old timers proud.
My next door neighbor, who's son is the paperboy for a person who owns a Chevy Luv truck, who's cousin used to own a Dodge in 1972 said it was BS. So there Dodge guys..............nice try.
That 2006 XL CC 4x4 6.0 out in front of my old office is flogged and abused from key start to stop. Warm up period? Nope. Hook up a big trailer and floor it down range? No problem.
Everyday I'd get to work I'd expect my guys to tell me they blew up a the 6.0 and I'd have to call GSA to get work done on it. Just regular maintenance. Its the reason why I bought a Ford heavy duty.
I had a Toyota Tundra 1/2 ton. I'd buy one again in a hearbeat, but its no 3/4 ton or diesel.