I agree.... You can get a new patent plate to replace it... Get the title in your name.... Your half way their...

 

I 3rd that motion!!!

 

I think he's saying the Bad Brother gave the title to the Brother He Bought It From? But he hasn't got it from him yet?

 

hey doc yes come and take a look at this old truck your welcome anytime as is everyone . this is confusing tho, the brother whos name is on the title released it to the one i bought it from but he kept the vin tag. so the guy i bought the truck from has the title but he claims that the title was junked if it was im wondering why he want offer it to me. something isn't right. the one whos name is on the title let it go but didn't offer it to me skipping the other guy who i bought it from.so yes he released it but i dont have it.

 

Go ask the guy you bought it from for the title that his brother released. If he says he doesn't have it then file for an abandened title... and then contact Tags Backeast, Trim Tags Backeast, Data Plates, A.G.Backeast. We make tags for AMC, Buick, Cadillac, Camaro, Chevelle, Chevrolet, Chrysler, Corvette, Dodge, DeSoto, Edsel, Ford, Frazer, La Salle, Henry J, Kaiser, Lincoln, Mercury, Mustang, Oldsmobile for a patent plate

 

i hinted to him about it when stopped by a few weeks ago .remember he told me that is was no good.i called him a few days later and did ask for it but haven't been offered it yet he said over the phone well let me talk to my lawyer we hung up and thats the last i heard from him .. i can't just roll up to his house demanding the title or what ever he has.i think its boiling down to there is more than likely taxes owed back several years and they don't want to have to pay.i cant pay all the taxes if there is any.. so at this time guys the truck is on the market in a few places as a parts truck.sale trade dosent matter to me but its got to go now cause at time point im losing interest . if i could afford to buy a titled truck i could use this one for parts. if i could figure out how to upload some pics of it yall would think that im crazy for even considering parting the thing but im at this point this is where the situation is.so i think im done worring about it and just chop it up as a loss and move on . i have other trucks my 50 chevy needs brake shoes and glass and it could be driven on the road.my 53 dodge i bought a s-10 frame for to sit over on and have a very nice 355 and turbo 400 for it.so i have other stuff to work on but there no where near as good shape as the ford.i could chop up the ford into a rat rod but thats worse than parting it i think.i could put it on the s-10 frame and put my 302 and aod i built on the s-10 frame.see i keep going around and around with it .anyway thanks guys all of you for the interest and input on this i will update if anything changes.im going outside and take a hammer to something

 

Uhhh.....my sandblaster is sitting there at my place beside my truck cab if you really feel the need to take your frustrations out on something. Or you can take that hammer to some fence posts I need to replace if it will help.

No seriously, I hate this is happening to you. Like I said earlier, I really believe it's a tax issue, and I think it's becoming quite obvious to you too (especially if they're talking to a lawyer already). My bet is that they put their name on the Kansas title but never turned it in for a proper KY title. Now they realize that if KY gets hold of it, they will be forced to pay the property taxes. And I'd be damned if I'd pay them for them. Such a shame. You've done all you can do in trying to get that title. Plus, if they removed the VIN tag, then I'd just go over to the courthouse and apply for a salvage title. When they removed that vin tag, they essentially eliminated the one piece of proof that the truck belonged to them.

 

Did you get a bill of sell? Does your state require you to transfer title or can you take a bill of sell in for change of ownership? How long has it been on your property? Does your state issue abandened tittles?

 

I'm not sure he got a bill of sale. But KY is not a bill of sale state anyway unfortunately. To answer your other question, I think KY requires an affidavit that you have had possession of the "abandoned" vehicle for 5 years or more (I could be wrong about the specifics there). The more I think about it, I think he just needs to apply for a salvage title and go through the motions. If they issue him a title, and then those brothers come back later, they can just take it up with the state of KY. The more this plays out, the more it's becoming clear to me that it's nothing more than a tax thing.

 

Does anyone know any tow company they could talk to about Abandoned vehicle titles? They would know how long? Most states I've heard of it's as much as 60 days. I would check into it if you still want the truck...

 

Realistically there shouldn't be THAT much in taxes on it.

I doubt KY has rates much out of line with KS, so assuming some similarity...

For my 1975 280Z my State property taxes were only $12/YR, granted I paid $45 each year, but that was the "processing fee" and "DMV Imporvement Fee" etc, all of that silliness they add on. 20 yrs of taxes at that rate is only $240...granted there are likely penalty fees, but the DMV may well be able to waive a lot of this stuff to the date of purchase.

I would think it's worth looking into, maybe call the DMV and simply ask "I have a truck that hasn't been tagged in 20 years, what will the back taxes cost me?" at least here in KS they can tell you pretty easily a close number...especially if you have the VIN.

That would still leave you the issue of getting the title, but I would think that getting clarity and removing the tax issue may well make the brothers more willing to cooperate with you.

Surely the work you've done so far is worth a couple hundred bucks!

 

Whenever the "brothers" are discussed in this thread, I picture these two from the early 90s movie "Nothing but Trouble".



One of them is named Bobo, but I don't remember the other's name.

 

Doc, the more and more I read through this post, it smells more of fraud and embezzlement to the highest degree. I wouldn't care if these guys were Millionaires, fordsforme legally paid for a vehicle, sold as a 53' which it was not, thus the fraud and the selling parties have litigated embezzlement by not releasing the title which is property of the paying owner and the vehicle.
By no means should this vehicle be parted out by the buyer as the sellers could very well bring their own proceedings in court against him.
Fordsforme, I would suggest you continue to retain possession of this vehicle, lock it up in a secure location if you have to, and secure a lawyer to file against him on the above charges. You have honestly invested in a legal transaction and have made all honest requirements to resolve the transaction at your level. You may very well find with an attorney's help that you not only will in end results, own the vehicle but may also be compensated for your grief and attorneys fees. Further charges against the brothers by the State Licensing Division could be implemented.
It very sad to see transactions of this nature occur but they can be legally resolved and individuals of this caliber need legal action against them.
MAY THE GAVEL FALL IN YOUR FAVOR!!

 

That's funny because this is what I kept thinking of

 

In NM, failure to transfer title within 30 days of the date it was bought (i.e., when seller dated the sale on the title) gets you a penalty of a dollar a day. If the title was signed over to the brother but not dated, no problem, it could be dated yesterday and you'd be OK. But if that were the case, there'd be nothing for the brother to sign...the title would still show a sale from someone in Kansas. See what I mean? The brother would only need to sign it off if he'd actually transferred title into his name (and paid taxes).

I think there's something really fishy going on here. My guess would be there is something wrong with the title they have. I would tell these guys to burn the title and hammer the Ratings Plate into scrap (or maybe stick both of them up their a$$ ), and go get a new state-issued Special title.