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Old Aug 25, 2011 | 03:46 PM
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Rough shifting...

... my 2007 ford explorer has a rough shifting. When it reaches 40 mph and the speed decreases it sounds like is going over a piece of wood! Any help is apprciated!
 
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Old Aug 25, 2011 | 08:42 PM
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without knowing too many details, it is always a good idea to change trans oil and wipe out the oil pan every 2 years... and especially when you start to notice "odd" shifting
 
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without knowing too many details, it is always a good idea to change trans oil and wipe out the oil pan every 2 years... and especially when you start to notice "odd" shifting
They did change the oil at the dealer. The problem began ever since they replaced the radiator. Thanks!
 
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Old Aug 26, 2011 | 06:53 AM
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Is there any service that was performed at the time that may help diagnose this issue? Was it just a fluid and filter change on the transmission, or did they flush the system? Was it done the same time that the radiator was changed? Did they happen to itemize on the bill what type (not brand) of transmission fluid they used? Did they perform and PCM updates?

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Old Aug 26, 2011 | 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by shorod
Is there any service that was performed at the time that may help diagnose this issue? Was it just a fluid and filter change on the transmission, or did they flush the system? Was it done the same time that the radiator was changed? Did they happen to itemize on the bill what type (not brand) of transmission fluid they used? Did they perform and PCM updates?

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I went for an engine oil change. The same day they replaced the radiator. Before the oil change and radiator, according to the mechanic they used this machine to change the transmission oil because it was due. But i really notice the odd shifting when they replaced the radiator. Maybe the odd shifting was there but I didn't notice it until then. what's the PCM? Thanks!
 
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Old Aug 26, 2011 | 08:25 AM
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So they used a flush machine. There is your problem. Flush machines kill transmissions. The transmission should never be flushed. Its ok to do a dynamic fluid exchange, but thats not the same thing as a flush. Flushes force dirty fluid through the valve body at pressures the transmission was never intended to see. They blow out seals, and jam crud into the small passages.
 
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Old Aug 26, 2011 | 01:59 PM
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Exactly my thoughts, and the cause of my leading questions. I suspect the flush contributed to the issues you're now experiencing and I'm sadly unsure of the best course of action for you at this point.

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Old Aug 26, 2011 | 03:35 PM
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So they used a flush machine. There is your problem. Flush machines kill transmissions. The transmission should never be flushed. Its ok to do a dynamic fluid exchange, but thats not the same thing as a flush. Flushes force dirty fluid through the valve body at pressures the transmission was never intended to see. They blow out seals, and jam crud into the small passages.
KhanTyranitar, I think I will go with the second option (DFE) It was performed at the Ford dealership, I'm assuming it was done properly! I'm calling the dealer as i type. The company's name for the machine is BG machine! The guy is telling me it is used across the country. He tells me to bring it in. Thanks!!
 
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Old Aug 26, 2011 | 10:00 PM
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Please follow-up on this thread with what the dealership finds.

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Old Aug 27, 2011 | 06:40 AM
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Please follow-up on this thread with what the dealership finds.

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Will do Rod! Thanks!
 
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Originally Posted by tupapiy2k
KhanTyranitar, I think I will go with the second option (DFE) It was performed at the Ford dealership, I'm assuming it was done properly! I'm calling the dealer as i type. The company's name for the machine is BG machine! The guy is telling me it is used across the country. He tells me to bring it in. Thanks!!
Nope, a dynamic fluid exchange doesn't use a machine. If a machine was used then it was flushed. Even at the dealer, they often use flush machines. BG is a flush machine, as guilty as the rest.

A dynamic fluid exchange using nothing more than a simple pump that adds new fluid to the reservoir, while the transmissions own internal pump pumps the old fluid out through the transmission cooler return lines. This type of exchange is only performed after the pan has been dropped and the filter replaced.
 
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Originally Posted by KhanTyranitar
Nope, a dynamic fluid exchange doesn't use a machine. If a machine was used then it was flushed. Even at the dealer, they often use flush machines. BG is a flush machine, as guilty as the rest.

A dynamic fluid exchange using nothing more than a simple pump that adds new fluid to the reservoir, while the transmissions own internal pump pumps the old fluid out through the transmission cooler return lines. This type of exchange is only performed after the pan has been dropped and the filter replaced.
Well, well, well, the dealer didn't find anything wrong with the transmission. PCM codes were normal according to the tech. I asked once again while at the dealer what type of oil change they performed and they gave an example of a dialysis machine. Takes the old oil out and the new in (that's that). All for only $99.00 Lmfao!! Too expensive!!
 
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