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Old Aug 24, 2011 | 03:05 PM
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That price seems pretty high to me for a supercab with minimal options.
 
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Old Aug 24, 2011 | 06:01 PM
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It seems high, but looking at used truck prices around here, good used trucks are pulling a good buck. I think its cause a new truck is so darned expensive the dealers are selling more used than new around here anyway.

Thats what I paid for my 06 Crew Lariat 4 years ago with 15k on it.

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Old Aug 24, 2011 | 07:03 PM
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Thanks for all the help guys, but i've gotta pass on this truck. (even though it is the truck of my dreams)

Here it is if anyone is looking for one: It seems like a great price.

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Uh, I wouldn't call that a great price...or at least around here. I paid just a tad more ($3k more) than that 4 years ago for my crew cab Lariat. The only thing on my truck that isn't powered is the telescoping mirrors.

They're not cheap to own...just an oil change alone (every 5k miles) your going to drop $60 if you do it yourself with the right filters & fluids. The fuel filters will set you back $30 if you buy them from an online vendor; the tires aren't cheap either (dropped $880 on a set of four Michelins 3 years ago). But I can pass any V10 on the highway or at the gas pump; and a stock Dodge can't keep up with my stock truck (haven't found a Chebby in the right place...yet). Granted I'm running a 2WD with 3.73LS in the pumpkin...I'm getting around 19-20 on the highway. I don't run ***** out way up in the upper RPMs of the engine. I keep it around 2 grand most of the time, but I do work it pulling trailers or "merging" on to the interstate. As far as life span...that's a moving target. I've got 100k on mine...and it's seen the inside of a shop a couple of times (ICP, gauge cluster, injectors) but with the exception of the injectors it wasn't a design flaw of the truck..the ICP is a common failure on the6.0L like the CPS on the 7.3L is/was. The original injectors would more than likely still be in the truck if I had paid attention to my fuel pressure like I was warned to (several times). I seem to remember someone posting recently of a F350 with 300k on it...he was a RV trailer hauler (factory to dealership). At 100k on my truck, I'd set off today for a coast to coast trip pulling the camper without an ounce of concern. Now I would pack a couple of things (spare fuel filters, minor tools) but I wouldn't worry if I'm going to get there; I know I will with this truck. If your wanting a truck to commute with, maybe a 5.4 if you have to have a 3/4 ton; or the EcoBoost if you need intermittent pulling power. Living with a 6.0L is best described as living with a supermodel....they've got a couple of high maintenance items...but out on the town they will bring a smile to your face and pride in your step.
 
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Old Aug 24, 2011 | 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Sarge261
Thats what I paid for my 06 Crew Lariat 4 years ago with 15k on it.

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Now that was a steal.

 
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Old Aug 24, 2011 | 07:29 PM
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6.0 PSD

Thanks for all the feed back it is grearly appreciated!! The truck I am looking at is a 05 Lariat ext cab 4x4 Dully it has 67k on it. I've seen the carfax on it and it don't show any issues as mentioned here in this forum. Are these issues something that happens before or after the 50k mark?
most of you say the 6.0 needs to be run. I am retired and planning on travelling the country pulling a 39' 5th wheel but I am not travelling all at one time. I will probably be sitting one place for about 6 months at a time which the truck probably will not be getting much exercize during these stays. I am very religious about preforming regular maintance I change the oil, oil and fuel filters faithfully every 3000 miles along with checking coolant,trans fluid on my 97 7.3 PSD. and the only problem I have had with it is the glow plug relay and it just turned 80k. How do you feel the 6.0 will hold up under these conditions? Does anybody travel around pulling a 5th wheel? what kind of milage do you get?
 

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Old Aug 24, 2011 | 08:15 PM
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The truck I am looking at is a 05 Lariat ext cab 4x4 Dully it has 67k on it. I've seen the carfax on it and it don't show any issues as mentioned here in this forum. Are these issues something that happens before or after the 50k mark?
Most folks that have had the STC go on their '05 it was between 60k and 80k miles. If the carfax/Oasis doesn't show the truck getting an STC replaced, I'd look into getting a extended service plan/warranty.
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most of you say the 6.0 needs to be run. I am retired and planning on travelling the country pulling a 39' 5th wheel but I am not travelling all at one time. I will probably be sitting one place for about 6 months at a time which the truck probably will not be getting much exercize during these stays.
Where you get into trouble with the 6.0L is the vanes on the turbo can rust and the carbon build up in the EGR system if the truck isn't worked enough. Several guys on here (I'm one of them) subscribe to the idea of an Italian tune up every couple of weeks (once the truck is up to operating temperature) to keep the vanes from sticking.
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I am very religious about preforming regular maintance I change the oil, oil and fuel filters faithfully every 3000 miles along with checking coolant,trans fluid on my 97 7.3 PSD. and the only problem I have had with it is the glow plug relay and it just turned 80k. How do you feel the 6.0 will hold up under these conditions? Does anybody travel around pulling a 5th wheel? what kind of milage do you get?
It all depends on the rear end ratio, how fast you drive and a couple of other variables I'm sure I've forgotten. I pull a 8k pound bumper pull and get right about 14 mpg running 70mph. As far as the maintenance...if your do it on time and with the right fluids & filters the truck should take of you for a long time. A 7.3L with only 80k showing on the clock isn't much for these motors.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2011 | 04:29 AM
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Most folks that have had the STC go on their '05 it was between 60k and 80k miles. If the carfax/Oasis doesn't show the truck getting an STC replaced, I'd look into getting a extended service plan/warranty.Where you get into trouble with the 6.0L is the vanes on the turbo can rust and the carbon build up in the EGR system if the truck isn't worked enough. Several guys on here (I'm one of them) subscribe to the idea of an Italian tune up every couple of weeks (once the truck is up to operating temperature) to keep the vanes from sticking.It all depends on the rear end ratio, how fast you drive and a couple of other variables I'm sure I've forgotten. I pull a 8k pound bumper pull and get right about 14 mpg running 70mph. As far as the maintenance...if your do it on time and with the right fluids & filters the truck should take of you for a long time. A 7.3L with only 80k showing on the clock isn't much for these motors.
What is a Italian tune up ?? Motorcraft products is all that I use!!! I have always heard the vanes in the 6.0 were plastic which was part of the problem with this engine but if they can rust I guess what I heard isn't true!!
 
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Old Aug 25, 2011 | 04:41 AM
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Originally Posted by stang70
What is a Italian tune up ?? Motorcraft products is all that I use!!! I have always heard the vanes in the 6.0 were plastic which was part of the problem with this engine but if they can rust I guess what I heard isn't true!!
The turbo vanes definitely are NOT plastic. They would melt very quickly at the temps the endure. The water pump impeller is plastic.

Italian tune up is giving it a good old fashioned blowing out like the old gassers used to require. Keeps the carbon out and exercises the vanes in the turbo to keep them moving freely. A 6.0 likes RPM's. It's not like an old school diesel that has that a ton of low end grunt.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2011 | 05:06 AM
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The turbo vanes definitely are NOT plastic. They would melt very quickly at the temps the endure. The water pump impeller is plastic.

Italian tune up is giving it a good old fashioned blowing out like the old gassers used to require. Keeps the carbon out and exercises the vanes in the turbo to keep them moving freely. A 6.0 likes RPM's. It's not like an old school diesel that has that a ton of low end grunt.
Thanks npccpartsmanI apprciate the advice I should have known what a Italian tune up was after all I used to give my 1970 Mach1 one all the time
 
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Old Aug 25, 2011 | 10:51 AM
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Now that was a steal.

Diesel Fuel was close to 6 bucks a gallon up here back then so I used that as leverage.

Some of the work done at a dealer may not show up on a car fax report so my advice is have the dealer run an OASIS report on that truck and see whats been done. If its had a ton of warranty work done to it I would strongly urge you to find another or atleast get an ESP to cover you where ever your travels take you.

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Old Aug 25, 2011 | 11:13 AM
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Thanks for all the feed back it is grearly appreciated!! The truck I am looking at is a 05 Lariat ext cab 4x4 Dully it has 67k on it. I've seen the carfax on it and it don't show any issues as mentioned here in this forum. Are these issues something that happens before or after the 50k mark?
most of you say the 6.0 needs to be run. I am retired and planning on travelling the country pulling a 39' 5th wheel but I am not travelling all at one time. I will probably be sitting one place for about 6 months at a time which the truck probably will not be getting much exercize during these stays. I am very religious about preforming regular maintance I change the oil, oil and fuel filters faithfully every 3000 miles along with checking coolant,trans fluid on my 97 7.3 PSD. and the only problem I have had with it is the glow plug relay and it just turned 80k. How do you feel the 6.0 will hold up under these conditions? Does anybody travel around pulling a 5th wheel? what kind of milage do you get?
I have owned both a 7.3 and a 6.0 as well as many other diesels over the last 25 years. The 7.3 was the best of all of them hands down. I would trust that truck to travel anywhere pulling just about anything. My 6.0 on the other hand I don't. Feels like driving a ticking bomb even though my only problems so far have been the turbo and egr valve. The only way I would trust my 6.0 would be to do the whole studs, egr delete and BD air/oil cooler. Even then I would still be leery. I like my truck and plan to keep it for awhile, but I will say I'm not a big 6.0 fan and wish I had my old 7.3 in this truck.
 
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