Notices

351W REBUILD HELP!!!!!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 19, 2011 | 11:08 PM
  #1  
14&Ford's Avatar
14&Ford
Thread Starter
|
Tuned
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 280
Likes: 15
From: Vancouver, Wa USA
351W REBUILD HELP!!!!!

Hey all!

My 15 yr old daughter and i purchased a 82 F100 "Flairside" To restore as her first truck. The one in the avitar.

It has a 2bbl 302 with an AOD and a 9" running 3.0:1 gears.

The goal of the project is a daily driver that has enough "kahunas" to take to the HS drags on the weekends.

After some advice from a respected machine shop, I aquired a 351W with a roller cam from a 95 f250 for $300- It even ran when it came ito the wrecking yard, so i have a first hand account that it is a good core that has nothing broken or bent.

Im dropping it off to the machine shop next week after it gets pulled and giving the shop a $2000 budget cap. This needs to include the machine work.

The build target ammount does NOT include the 650 CFM carb, HEI ignition, Headers/exhaust that i plan to run.

Can you all offer advice to me on what i need to be asking my machinist for to hit a targeted HP of 250-300HP?

ANY advice would be helpfull- Im thinking that i want to use the stock heads IF possible. The shop is reputable and has been making engines for quite some time.

Cam combo's???

Compression rating? (daily driver remember)

Different valves?

HELP
 
Reply
Old Aug 20, 2011 | 10:17 AM
  #2  
Conanski's Avatar
Conanski
FTE Legend
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Community Builder
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 31,930
Likes: 1,499
From: Ottawa, Ontario
250-300hp requires nothing more than letting the motor breath, and that only amounts to a cam, intake, and full exhaust on an otherwise stock spec rebuild. If you can lay your hands on a set of GT40 heads from an Explorer or Lightning, or some lightly used aftermarket heads by all means snap them up, but that's just gravy really and not absolutely necessary for this power level. Don't put any serious amount of money in the stock heads, if they need anything more than a valve lap and guides start shopping for rebuilt replacements or lightly used heads that are ready to go, the stock heads just aren't worth it. I'd suggest the comp cams 35-412-8 with an Eddy Performer and 600cfm Holley carb. The other thing you're going to have to address is the rear axle gearing and trans, with the steep OD of the AOD you could easily go as high as 4.10 but for the sake of transmission life you're gonna need at least 3.55's in there or the trans won't be long for this world, matter of fact it will need a shift kit just to have a chance of surviving behind a healthy 351 and don't be surprised if it starts to slip anyway, the early AODs were built pretty weak. All those weaknesses can be addressed with the updates from later versions and aftermarket preformance parts.. but this requires a trans rebuild of course. Overall the AOD isn't that expensive to rebuild and can be built to handle just about any power level, see Ford-AOD.com the ultimate AOD Transmission Perfromance Website for all the goodies.
 
Reply
Old Aug 20, 2011 | 12:28 PM
  #3  
14&Ford's Avatar
14&Ford
Thread Starter
|
Tuned
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 280
Likes: 15
From: Vancouver, Wa USA
Conanski-

I had the thought that i would be changing the rear end ratio. 3.50, 3.70, 0r 3.89 were on the radar screen. Thoughts?

As far as the AOD, shift kit was on my list. I was also going to examine the torque converter and if i had the correct stall speed. Not sure what is optimum here.

If i get gt40 heads or gt 40p heads, whats the difference? I have a GOOD salvage sorce- what rigs do i target and what casting numbers am i looking for?

What pistons do i run? Compression ratio? Im told that for every jump in compression of 1.0 that i gain 20 HP all being equal? Is this true?

I plan on a good HEI sys to go with it.

Also, everyone says good intake. Edelbrock performer? Performer RPM, Victor Jr? Weiand Stealth? Lots of good intakes-Wich one is best?

What would you do? I have a golden oppertunity here and just dont want to mess it up


Sean
 
Reply
Old Aug 20, 2011 | 10:34 PM
  #4  
Conanski's Avatar
Conanski
FTE Legend
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Community Builder
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 31,930
Likes: 1,499
From: Ottawa, Ontario
Depending upon tire size I'd say 3.55 to 3.73 gears for 28-30" tires, good performance with the potential for equally good fuel milage. GT40 heads flow about 20% better than the stock heads, and the P version flow a little better again but present header fitment issues because of a radical spark plug angle so they're not as desirable. GT40 heads have F1, F3, and F4ZE casting numbers and were found on '96-97.5 Explorer/Mountaineer primarally though also showed up on the G1 Lightning and '93-95 Cobra Mustang, while the P heads are F7ZE and are found on '97.5+ Explorer/Mountaineer. If you want to run regular pump gas you'll want to keep CR at about 9-9.5:1, stock pistons deliver 8.8:1 so you don't want to much beyond flat tops with valve eyebrows. The Eddy Performer is sufficient for this though the Weiand Stealth is also highly recommended, the heads we're talking about here flow about 200cfm per intake port max so you don't need anything hugh.
 
Reply
Old Aug 21, 2011 | 12:39 AM
  #5  
14&Ford's Avatar
14&Ford
Thread Starter
|
Tuned
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 280
Likes: 15
From: Vancouver, Wa USA
thank you! Specifics i can actually use. I will be looking for GT40 heads on ebay to see what can be found.
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
80' ford man55
Small Block V8 (221, 260, 289, 5.0/302, 5.8/351W)
8
Sep 18, 2011 08:09 PM
ladelld33
Small Block V8 (221, 260, 289, 5.0/302, 5.8/351W)
4
Apr 17, 2010 09:06 PM
fireman660r
Small Block V8 (221, 260, 289, 5.0/302, 5.8/351W)
19
Feb 13, 2009 02:16 PM
serving_time
Small Block V8 (221, 260, 289, 5.0/302, 5.8/351W)
17
Feb 3, 2005 10:14 PM
rchenifo
Performance & General Engine Building
8
Mar 6, 2003 06:01 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:08 PM.

story-0
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalytic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-30 18:33:59


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-2
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-4
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-5
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-6
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-8
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-9
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE