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Old Aug 19, 2011 | 06:47 PM
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codes p0069 and p0299

These are the codes I was getting when the no power started today.

Changed the oil this morning, rotella and ford filter. Started fine afterwards, pressure up in a couple seconds after start.

Coming back from lunch I had little to no power, lotta black smoke. Good thing I was real close. I immediately checked my banks tuner and read the codes p0069 and p0299. I figured I popped a hose of something. Too much fuel, not enough air. So I checked both cold side hoses and bought a new silicone elbow that looked bad. Still same problem, starts fine, revs fine in park. Takes off fine until it gets about 10psi then seems like there is way to much fuel.

Came back and checked the EGR for the hell of it. Disconnected the battery to clear codes. Very little, dry soot on it, moved freely when pushed down. Took off the air intake hose and checked the turbo vanes, didn't look to great but spun freely and weren't too bad. Air minder is fine. So unless someone has any other suggestions tomorrow I'm going to pull the turbo and clean the vgt's. Hopefully this'll do it. oh and no more codes after the batt disconnect.

I guess if this is the problem I'm not surprised, I only live 2 miles from work.
 
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Old Aug 20, 2011 | 05:26 AM
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Originally Posted by elyrain
. Took off the air intake hose and checked the turbo vanes, didn't look to great but spun freely and weren't too bad. Air minder is fine. So unless someone has any other suggestions tomorrow I'm going to pull the turbo and clean the vgt's
What you saw when you took off the air intake hose was the turbo impeller. You can't see the turbo vanes (what you're calling the VGT's) without disassembling the turbo. There is a turbo cleaning procedure in the tech folder and I think you're following a wise course of action by cleaning the turbo. Also, while the turbo is out, check the two flex sections of the y-pipe for cracks/soot which might also be the cause of your underboost.

One simple thing you might want to check with the P0069 code: With Key on engine off (KOEO) read the map, baro, and EBP sensors and see if they are within .5 psi of each other. Also, check the small black rubber hose from the passenger side intake manifold to the MAP sensor and the nipple it connects to on the manifold for an obstruction. This is a MAP/Baro correlation code with the engine running.
 
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Old Aug 20, 2011 | 08:49 AM
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I know what the vgt's are and the impeller does have vanes.

I never really though of checking the hot side, but that could definitely be it. Checked the map hose yesterday and it looked ok, I'll pull it and try to blow through it.

I forgot to say that my EGT's were reading 1800 yesterday. Even at idle. I was hoping the sensor was messed up.
 
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Old Aug 20, 2011 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by elyrain
I know what the vgt's are and the impeller does have vanes.

I never really though of checking the hot side, but that could definitely be it. Checked the map hose yesterday and it looked ok, I'll pull it and try to blow through it.

I forgot to say that my EGT's were reading 1800 yesterday. Even at idle. I was hoping the sensor was messed up.

Semantics maybe, but it helps maintain clear communication.

The impellor has blades. They are not called vanes. In all turbines (from large electrical generation units to our turbos) when you adjust the gas flow through the turbine section to control the power output, they are called vanes, inlet guide vanes, etc.

VGT simply stands for "variable geometry turbo". It is the name for the entire unit, not a component.

If the compressor section impellor "does not look too good" (your view from the air intake), then you might have poor filtration.

The hot side vanes are what can rust and soot up and cause the more frequent problems.

good luck to you.
 
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Old Aug 20, 2011 | 09:45 PM
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Looks like a bolt backed out and chewed up a few things. I bought a used turbo to get me by for a few weeks till I upgrade. EGT sensor reads 1800deg even before it's started so I think it's a goner. Got the new turbo on but have a hot side leak. No codes though. Oil tube and map sensor tube were both clean and not blocked.

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