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Old Jul 17, 2012 | 08:31 PM
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Anyone know what wire behind the A post kick panel on a 2011 F350? Also, when the switch is flipped, do the backup lights go on, or does the diode address that?

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I did this mod this weekend on my 2010 F350 with the factory camera and the screen in the mirror. The Green wire with the brown tracer is the wire to do this. I accessed this from the main connector behind the passenger side A post kick panel. Wired in the diode and ran a wire under the dash to the #3 upfitter switch. Works like a Champ!!
 
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Old Jul 17, 2012 | 09:50 PM
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The diode should prevent anything like that from happening. I'm looking for the same wire you are on my 2011 F-250...I'd rather get into it there if I can rather than up by the mirror.
 
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Old Jul 22, 2012 | 12:00 AM
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Anyone help us out?
 
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Old Jul 31, 2012 | 11:13 PM
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Can anyone with a 2011 that has their mirror mounted video and manaul on cam let me know what wire to tap into on the passenger side kick panel? It would be greatly appreciated.
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Old Aug 2, 2012 | 11:30 PM
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It's like they all disappeared!
 
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Old Aug 3, 2012 | 05:51 AM
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I tried to do this on a 2009 with navigation and a 2011 with the monitor in the mirror. As far as I can tell this can't be done the same way I did it as the monitor gets the command to turn on from the computer and not just a trigger wire. When I found the reverse wire in the 2011 and I cut it the mirror monitor still worked and once power was placed to the monitor side of the cut it still did not change. It appears that you would need a LOCKPICK device to have this option on the 2011 or 2012. Sorry for the long winded response but was not sure how to type out what I wanted to say.
 
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Old Aug 16, 2012 | 10:30 AM
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Just wondering if anyone with a 2011 has tried to splice in to the camera trigger/backup light before the PCM. I've read alot of post where people have tried the wiring behind the passenger side kick panel but none connecting between the camera and the PCM. Just a thought, mines a 2010 or I would try it out.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2012 | 12:01 PM
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I have tried but haven't had any success. I cannot find what triggers the mirror to activate. I thought it was just me but from some of the other posts on this thread it appears it is a challenge unique to the 2011. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2012 | 01:05 PM
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I have been following this thread hoping for a simple answer. Mine is a 2012 with a mirror display. Activating the camera with an Upfitter switch would be a useful mod, but I do not have access to any wiring schematics.
 
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Old Aug 19, 2012 | 03:59 AM
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FOR 2011+ ONLY...it's different colors and locations for 2008-2010 models

this is only applicable to 2011+ guys
2008-2010 guys have different color wires and the reverse trigger wire is in a different pin location

if you have the Nav/Display for the camera in the dash...sorry. The CanBus that Ford operates everything off of sucks. It's kicked my rear several times with other projects. Hopefully the Lockpick comes out soon if it's not already available



if you have the LCD display on the rear-view mirror, this mod is still applicable. Even for the 2011/2012 guys
every single mirror will have at minimum 3 wires. Power, Ground, Reverse Trigger. Depending on model/luxuries, it will also have compass +/-, camera +/-, Microphone +/- wires.

Refer to the schematic below for the wires you need. it's for a F-150, but the info is still good IMO
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look at position 9 for your mirror plug. You are looking for a blue wire with white chaser (might be green with brown chase...unlikely). That is the reverse trigger wire. run a diode and connect your upfitter to this wire. Then you can trigger the LCD display on anytime you desire


btw, the camera itself is always powered whenever the key is in on/acc position
 
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Old Aug 19, 2012 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Tylus
it's for a F-150, but the info is still good IMO
What does that mean, in your opinion? Does that mean you've done it to a Super Duty or two, and it's worked out great? Or that you hope/assume it's all the same between product lines? Or what?
 
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Old Aug 19, 2012 | 08:51 PM
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Can you please further explain the wiring of the diode? I cannot see the diagram pics you uploaded well enough to see how you did it.

I am assuming you "tap in" the wire from the outfitter switch between the diode and the mirror on the blue wire w/ white chaser (or possibly the green wire w/ brown chaser); is this correct? I believe this would allow the mirror video display to be triggered on, and the diode would block any current from running in the opposite direction of the mirror preventing the backup lights from turning on or any other issues.

Please let me know if I'm correct in my thinking. Sorry for all the questions, just want to make sure I understand exactly what I'm doing before getting into and realizing I don't know what the hell I'm doing. Thank you for your help, it's greatly appreciated.

JD

Originally Posted by Tylus
you need to grab a diode. A diode acts like a check valve. Only allows current one way. run a wire from your upfitter switch to the trigger wire on the camera

I only have a 2009/2010 Workshop DVD. I'll look at it later and see what the trigger wire is for the Rear Mirror Camera. There is a wire from the Inst. Cluster that runs to the Rear Mirror. This triggers the LCD display on, which in turn powers the Rear Camera on.

You wire the diode so that you don't reverse feed that trigger wire. That way, whenever you flip the upfitter switch, the mirror/camera is turned on.

I'll post up pics in a few hours of the Wiring Diagram.



edit: btw, that write-up you posted up is amazing 1975StroppeBaja! I hadn't even considered doing an electronic 4x2 low range. I was just going to install manaul hubs
 
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Old Aug 20, 2012 | 02:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Firekite
What does that mean, in your opinion? Does that mean you've done it to a Super Duty or two, and it's worked out great? Or that you hope/assume it's all the same between product lines? Or what?
I have Ford Repair DVD's that cover from 2004 through 2010. With very few exceptions, Ford uses the same wire colors and layouts. My 2006 F-150 uses the same layout/colors as my 2006 F-250. My 08 Expy has extremely similar wiring and colors to the 06 F-150. My 09 Mustang used the same color wires and bundles

it's a streamlining process that makes sense when you think about it. The more things are different, the harder it is for Tech's and Engineers to do their magic when there is an issue


So yes, while I don't have the information for a 2011+ F-250/350 currently, I would not hesitate to use a 2011 F-150 wire guide to make a "educated guess".
Originally Posted by jdenny21
Can you please further explain the wiring of the diode? I cannot see the diagram pics you uploaded well enough to see how you did it.

I am assuming you "tap in" the wire from the outfitter switch between the diode and the mirror on the blue wire w/ white chaser (or possibly the green wire w/ brown chaser); is this correct? I believe this would allow the mirror video display to be triggered on, and the diode would block any current from running in the opposite direction of the mirror preventing the backup lights from turning on or any other issues.

Please let me know if I'm correct in my thinking. Sorry for all the questions, just want to make sure I understand exactly what I'm doing before getting into and realizing I don't know what the hell I'm doing. Thank you for your help, it's greatly appreciated.

JD
You got it JD. You can access the reverse trigger wire directly at the mirror, in the overhead, or by the drivers kick panel.

cut the wire, install the diode (make sure it's preventing electrical flow backwards away from the mirror), connect the wire from upfitter to the end of the diode and re-attach the reverse trigger wire at this junction. seal it up to prevent moisture/bad connection


anytime you flip the upfitter, it will power the trigger wire and turn on the LCD. The diode will prevent electrical flow backwards down the wire to the tail-lights.
 
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Old Aug 20, 2012 | 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Tylus
I have Ford Repair DVD's that cover from 2004 through 2010. With very few exceptions, Ford uses the same wire colors and layouts. My 2006 F-150 uses the same layout/colors as my 2006 F-250. My 08 Expy has extremely similar wiring and colors to the 06 F-150. My 09 Mustang used the same color wires and bundles

it's a streamlining process that makes sense when you think about it. The more things are different, the harder it is for Tech's and Engineers to do their magic when there is an issue


So yes, while I don't have the information for a 2011+ F-250/350 currently, I would not hesitate to use a 2011 F-150 wire guide to make a "educated guess".

You got it JD. You can access the reverse trigger wire directly at the mirror, in the overhead, or by the drivers kick panel.

cut the wire, install the diode (make sure it's preventing electrical flow backwards away from the mirror), connect the wire from upfitter to the end of the diode and re-attach the reverse trigger wire at this junction. seal it up to prevent moisture/bad connection


anytime you flip the upfitter, it will power the trigger wire and turn on the LCD. The diode will prevent electrical flow backwards down the wire to the tail-lights.

I looked at the mirror in position 9 to find a green wire with a brown tracer... There is a blue with white tracer wire on the mirror harness in a different position.

Can anyone confirm which wire is the reverse trigger wire? I'm not sure if color code or position (on the harness) determines function.

I also took off the driver's side A pillar panel and neither of these wires run down the drivers side; they're on the passenger side... I have a 2011 F350 Lariat CC SB 6.7
 
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Old Aug 20, 2012 | 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by jdenny21
I looked at the mirror in position 9 to find a green wire with a brown tracer... There is a blue with white tracer wire on the mirror harness in a different position.

Can anyone confirm which wire is the reverse trigger wire? I'm not sure if color code or position (on the harness) determines function.

I also took off the driver's side A pillar panel and neither of these wires run down the drivers side; they're on the passenger side... I have a 2011 F350 Lariat CC SB 6.7
Upon closer inspection, I the wire in the 9 position on the mirror harness is green with a PURPLE tracer. My mirror only has 5 wires total: black, white, Green w/ purple chaser, Light blue w/ white chaser, and White w/ blue chaser.

I located these wires behind the passenger side A pillar, stripped a small section of insulation on green w/ purple chaser, then ran a wire from the Aux 4 lead (brown) and wrapped it around the stripped section of wire, fired up the truck and flipped aux 4 and NOTHING, did the same with the blue w/ white chaser with the same result. I put the truck in reverse and the video display on the mirror worked as it normally does.

I assume this rules both of these wires out as the trigger wire even though I did not wire in the diode. Can someone please tell me if I'm correct in my assumption that if I had the correct "trigger" wire for the mirror video display, it would turn on even without the diode? This is just for testing purposes to locate the correct trigger wire, so I don't care if this turns on the reverse lights and backup proximity sensor.

OR, would it not function at all (as it did) without the diode?

The main reason I didn't wire the diode in was to avoid cutting the wires. Please let me know your thoughts. Tylus?

Thanks,
JD
 
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