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Old Aug 17, 2011 | 02:24 PM
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I have been cranking for far too long, never more than 10 seconds at a time with a min break in between but I am honestly surprised that i don't need a new starter yet.
 
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Old Aug 17, 2011 | 02:31 PM
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You might try replacing the CPS (camshaft position sensor). They are a known weakness on these engines. It is just above the harmonic dampener at about the 10 o'clock position. If you decide to swap this out, get one from Ford or an International dealer and not one of the big box auto parts places, as the aftermarket ones are junk. I would buy one and swap it out if it was me. They only cost about $25 or so and it doesn't hurt to have a spare anyway. Just one 10mm bolt holds it in place.

Usually when these go bad, there is no movement in the tach while cranking, but occasionally the tach will still work while cranking. Either way the engine WILL NOT RUN without this sensor in place. You will get no smoke out the tailpipe.
 
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Old Aug 17, 2011 | 03:34 PM
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I would try a CPS and if that's not it the it doesn't hurt to have a spare.

Nate I don't the the vans came with a tac
 
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Old Aug 17, 2011 | 04:46 PM
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I would try a CPS and if that's not it the it doesn't hurt to have a spare.

Nate I don't the the vans came with a tac
That could very well be the case. I'm not a real expert on the E-series.
 
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Old Aug 17, 2011 | 05:35 PM
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Do you see the CEL illuminate for a second when turning on the key ?
 
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Old Aug 19, 2011 | 02:25 PM
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I do get a CEL when cranking, And the van has no tach, kinda wish it did but ohh well.
 
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Old Aug 19, 2011 | 02:54 PM
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Yeah, I'm going to stick with the CPS. CEL while cranking sounds like a CPS to me.
 
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Old Aug 21, 2011 | 01:21 PM
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ok so the CEL is no longer on when cranking, and I get no codes when plugging in the reader. Is there any way to test for a bad CPS? aka any voltage readings or anything?
 
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Old Aug 21, 2011 | 03:06 PM
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ok so pulled the return line again and i am still getting air bubbles, so I suppose ill keep cranking, any idea how much fuel the engine will hold, i have pumped at least a gallon out in to a bucket , and still pretty consistent bubbles, im beginning to wonder if i might be introducing air somewhere when i crank.
 
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Old Aug 21, 2011 | 04:43 PM
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The return line will normally have air in it ...
 
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Old Aug 21, 2011 | 06:50 PM
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ok im going to find a new CPS tomorrow, anything else I should try in the mean time? I got a rainy night and this is in the garage,
 
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Old Aug 22, 2011 | 01:51 PM
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new cps right out of the box...still no start.
 
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Old Aug 22, 2011 | 02:48 PM
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also just noticed no more WTS light...thats not good.
 
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Old Aug 22, 2011 | 02:55 PM
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Start checking the fuses no WTS means no power to the PCM I'd start with the fuse for the fuel filter heater it's one of the big fuse under the hood
 
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Old Aug 22, 2011 | 03:09 PM
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I took a tester to all of them all checked out, I really need a wiring diagram for this thing, any good ones around?
 
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