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Fuel filter issues
I went and replaced my fuel filter on the old beast. While doing so I noticed I had a leak there. Well I replaced the filter hoping that would fix the issue. Of course it did not. It looks like it is coming from underneath the bowl that screws onto the bottom of the filter. Like the little valves in it are leaking. I also noticed that the 2 small hoses that connect to this bowl are in need of replacement. I am having issues locating this bowl to purchase a new one.
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The bowl is over 80.00 at ford/IH if they even still have it! You cab pull the valve out and get a new o ring for it and then re seal the sensor port! Or just get a filter with a solid bottom and problem is solved!
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From: Mi'kma'ki
Filter Bowl, Metal Bowl with drain valve fits PF F829B filter 88-93 7.3 L Ford Diesel and PF F811 filter PFRK20567 $47.97
Oregon Fuel Injection, Ford diesel Powerstroke performance, fuel system repair parts and more for 6.4 L, 6.0 L, 7.3 L and 6.9 L
Bowl & O-Ring Kit
1988-1994 Ford 7.3L IDI
Product # INRK20567
Price: $48.51
If your spin-on filter bowl has become damaged or is leaking, then this replacement Racor spin-on metal bowl with water sensor and o-ring may be what you need to keep your trusty 7.3L on the road. Designed to go with filter #PFF829B. Also replaces PFRK20567 spin-on kit.
http://www.usdieselparts.com/index.c...or-pff829b.cfm
Oregon Fuel Injection, Ford diesel Powerstroke performance, fuel system repair parts and more for 6.4 L, 6.0 L, 7.3 L and 6.9 L
Bowl & O-Ring Kit
1988-1994 Ford 7.3L IDI
Product # INRK20567
Price: $48.51
If your spin-on filter bowl has become damaged or is leaking, then this replacement Racor spin-on metal bowl with water sensor and o-ring may be what you need to keep your trusty 7.3L on the road. Designed to go with filter #PFF829B. Also replaces PFRK20567 spin-on kit.
http://www.usdieselparts.com/index.c...or-pff829b.cfm
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From: Mi'kma'ki
you should be careful doing this.because you'll be without a water separator.
water kills ip's and fuel injectors.
To Remove Water from Diesel Fuel Systems
Diesel fuel systems accumulate water during normal operations. The constant recirculation of diesel fuel for lubrication and cooling of fuel injectors causes thermal variations within fuel tanks and produces water in the form of condensation. Water can also be introduced into a fuel system from fuel suppliers that do not periodically check their fuel-handling equipment for water contamination.
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there are alternatives besides the stock setups too:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post10152121
often you can repair the leaks in the bowls as well.
i replaced mine with another metal bowl because i liked the nostalgia of it.
water kills ip's and fuel injectors.
To Remove Water from Diesel Fuel Systems
Diesel fuel systems accumulate water during normal operations. The constant recirculation of diesel fuel for lubrication and cooling of fuel injectors causes thermal variations within fuel tanks and produces water in the form of condensation. Water can also be introduced into a fuel system from fuel suppliers that do not periodically check their fuel-handling equipment for water contamination.
Power Service Products, diesel fuel additives, prevent gelling, clean injectors, disperse water, boost cetane, reduce emissions, improve fuel economyPower Service Products, diesel fuel additives, prevent gelling, clean injectors, disperse water, boos
there are alternatives besides the stock setups too:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post10152121
often you can repair the leaks in the bowls as well.
i replaced mine with another metal bowl because i liked the nostalgia of it.
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My 6.9 has been running without a water separator for 10 years. New IP/Injectors 6 years ago.
Still having found a 7.3 Van in a scrap yard to get the proper water separator head.
Still having found a 7.3 Van in a scrap yard to get the proper water separator head.
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the solid filter is a direct replacement filter.
and it has a water drain on the bottom.
you do not really need the hose that connects to the bottom of the filter.
also, in 23 years, i have not once ever had to open the waterdrain, and have been using the solid filter on the 88 for 22 years.
and it has a water drain on the bottom.
you do not really need the hose that connects to the bottom of the filter.
also, in 23 years, i have not once ever had to open the waterdrain, and have been using the solid filter on the 88 for 22 years.
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ah ok.well being that bad id put a solid filter on for now too.problem is though,if your going to return it to stock latter,the temp filter will cost half the price for the metal bowl.either that or you loose more in fuel meanwhile though lol so i guess not much choice unless you can park it and wait for the part to come in,then you wont need a temp older filter at least.
you can replace the rubber washers in those too you know? my drain screw broke off,and i didn't want to have to unscrew the bowl to drain water,so i just replaced the whole thing rather than sealing it up with a bolt.
here's the alternative solution from Wix to save ya some $:
http://www.amazon.com/Wix-33617-Spin.../dp/B000CSEVHI
here is how to fix your bowl.just get new seals,to save even more $:
you can replace the rubber washers in those too you know? my drain screw broke off,and i didn't want to have to unscrew the bowl to drain water,so i just replaced the whole thing rather than sealing it up with a bolt.
here's the alternative solution from Wix to save ya some $:
http://www.amazon.com/Wix-33617-Spin.../dp/B000CSEVHI
here is how to fix your bowl.just get new seals,to save even more $:
If you are referring to the oring Pictured in img_0043 in your earlier post I replaced mine with a fat oring closest I could find to the same od and Id (I don't remember the size) it has been a year no leaks so far.
Mine was also leaking at he Schroeder Valve (I misspelled it on the picture)
I hope you don't mind I copied some of your pictures and add labels for future use
I didn't think to take pictures when I had mine apart it looked just like yours does in the pictures . O rings are a lot cheaper than another filter I intend to get the other filter next time the fuel filter needs to be changed . 
Mine was also leaking at he Schroeder Valve (I misspelled it on the picture)
I hope you don't mind I copied some of your pictures and add labels for future use
I didn't think to take pictures when I had mine apart it looked just like yours does in the pictures . O rings are a lot cheaper than another filter I intend to get the other filter next time the fuel filter needs to be changed . I never asked I found a setscrew that fit the thread in the Schroeder valve hole and an oring from an assortment I got from harbor freight there is a shoulder near the bottom of the hole that the valve seals against . o ring set screw with permatex forma gasket sealer in the threads to help them seal just snug the set screw down enough to make the oring seal against the shoulder. be sure to use the one that stays soft and pliable so you can take the setscrew out later if you need to. I took mine apart about 4 times and replaced the orings before i figured out where the leak was It is a 40 plus mile round trip to town and by this time I just wanted it FIXED. and this was before I discovered FTE so I was kind of out there on my own.
It is a 40 plus mile round trip to town and by this time I just wanted it FIXED. and this was before I discovered FTE so I was kind of out there on my own.
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