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Old Aug 5, 2011 | 09:51 PM
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Unhappy Motor doesn't start...?

Hi, I have a 1970 Ford Highboy with what I believe to be a 390 in it. Bought it from the truck junk yard and drove it home. Replaced the carburator with a Holley and been doing some body work on it. Every time I started it it worked. Got new battery, gas in it, spark, and all wires are where they should be. I was trying to start it 2 days ago and it turned over but that was it. Hasn't started since. Anybody has any ideas ? Could really use some help.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2011 | 11:47 PM
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Are you getting spark? Check coil. Are you getting fuel to the carb? Check fuel preasure. Are you sure the wires are where they're suppose to be? Check wiring again. Check out the distributor Really hard to tell without being there.
 
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Old Aug 6, 2011 | 09:03 AM
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Unhappy Motor doesn't start..

Got spark, carburator is getting fuel, wires are where they supposed to be. Distributor has been checked. That's why I don't know what else it could be. Any other ideas or suggestions ? It ran before.
 
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Old Aug 6, 2011 | 09:48 AM
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Does it sound like its firing or is it just spinning over? If its just spinning over, my guess is it's ignition related.

It's some combo of fuel and fire just to get it started. Check that you get at least 5 PSI of fuel pressure. Also you can check the strength of spark from the coil with an ohm-meter. If the coil checks out check resistance in the coil to distributor cap wire.

What happens with a shot of starter fluid?
 
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Unhappy Motoer doesn't start...

I tried the shot of starter fluid. Did nothing. Will check all your other suggestions. Thanks
 
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Old Aug 7, 2011 | 08:58 AM
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No fire with starting fluid means you have a spark problem...if you are putting the starting fluid directly into the carb throat/intake.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2011 | 10:50 AM
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ya i have the same problem. its wiring. check to see if you have the plug wires to the right plugs and also check to see any wire splices. could also be a weak starter no?
 
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Old Aug 7, 2011 | 11:34 AM
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Check for voltage at + side of coil in start and run position. Got voltage, pull a plug and put the wire back on and hold tip to a good ground. Plug should have healthy spark. No spark, replace/check points. Coil will read 1.1-1.4 ohms across + and -, center post to either, minimum 7K ohms. That'll either find your problem or narrow it down a lot more.
Starting fluid usually works if you have spark, but look down throat of carb and move accelerator. Gas should shoot as soon as accelerator is moved. Postback with progress.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2011 | 11:51 AM
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You said you have spark but is it at the right time. When you ground the plug and crank the engine is the spark yellow or blue? It has to be blue or the coil isn't giving enough voltage to fire under pressure.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2011 | 12:49 PM
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Got spark, carburator is getting fuel, wires are where they supposed to be. Distributor has been checked. That's why I don't know what else it could be. Any other ideas or suggestions ? It ran before.
Missed that part.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2011 | 07:45 PM
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If it tries to almost start at first but never fires up completely could be bad condenser. #2 If it has the round type contacts on the back of the ignition switch then I'd say it's the plug that plugs into the switch. Plus this will make it hard to start. Their is a replacement pig tail for this switch as they always burned these out.. You can try a jumper Hot wire right from the Battery to the + side of the coil while trying to start it. This should give it enough voltage to start up and run..my 2cents
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Unhappy Motor doesn't start...

Thanks for everybody's suggestion. Checked the ohm on the coil, it was good. Changed the spark plugs again and put in a new condenser. Turned the key and it wanted to start really bad. We're getting closer to the problem. Spark plug wires are in the right firing order. Checking timing next. It's an old truck but I'm determined to get it running. Thanks again, keep you updated on the progress next weekend.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2011 | 09:31 PM
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Check the voltage to the + side of the coil while cranking. Sometimes the resistor in the coil lead (if it has one) can cause problems like that.


Originally Posted by Biggi
Thanks for everybody's suggestion. Checked the ohm on the coil, it was good. Changed the spark plugs again and put in a new condenser. Turned the key and it wanted to start really bad. We're getting closer to the problem. Spark plug wires are in the right firing order. Checking timing next. It's an old truck but I'm determined to get it running. Thanks again, keep you updated on the progress next weekend.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2011 | 10:09 PM
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If it's wired like mine was, the resistor won't be a factor until the motor is started. With the key in start position, he should be getting a full 12 volts from the solenoid.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2011 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by ilovemy60ford
If it's wired like mine was, the resistor won't be a factor until the motor is started. With the key in start position, he should be getting a full 12 volts from the solenoid.
You are correct sir! There should be a bypass to full voltage while cranking (linked to the starter circuit on the ign switch?), then back thru the resistor after starting.

I would still check the voltage at the coil while cranking.... a bad ground, excessive starter amperage draw etc can reduce the voltage to the coil when cranking the starter.
 
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