My neighbor has an 03 Cummins 3500 SRW, its on its second tranny, 2nd set of ball joints, U joints in the front axle countless times....Everything will eventually have problems.....

A friend of mine has an 05 Duramax with the almighty allison transmission...his first one blew....

 

Negative ghost rider! Many of us have tens of thousands of dollars in our trucks and can say and think what we believe. I understand your disappointment and frustration and might feel the same way and might even be inclined to buy different make of trucks, but your experience is nothing like mine and you will have a hard time convincing me that my truck is garbage. As the dude on Mythbusters said "I reject your reality and substitute my own"

 

So what everyone is saying is that all of the companies out there suck!!! Let me say that if Im not against having an older Ford, but for some reason I cant keep these 6.0's on the road longer than 2 days in a row... I take care of my trucks and they get regular maintenance. As for the replacement parts, they are from ford and i havent been told that they were anything other than Ford OE parts. I have to say yeah im pissed. I spent over $70,000.00 on 2 trucks and right after there paid off, when there supposed to be making me money they fall apart... I dont know the issues other the other brands are having, I guess I need to do my homework and see what those issues are. I didnt start this thread with the intention of ticking people off, Ive been a Ford supporter for years, I just wish they would support me for once. They denied the ball joints were bad from 10,000 miles when I started complaining about the tire wear, right after 36000 miles when I had it in for all the fluids to be changed and the warranty was up they said the ball joints were bad, thats for both trucks, thats the kinda crap that ticks me off. I changed dealers and had a case review with ford and they found that they didnt feel they should cover it. A friend of mine is an ASE certified mechanic and started going to diesel school so he can start working on them at his shop, He said the ford 6.0 would make him a wealthy guy and hes a Ford guy. So now what, Did I replace enough stuff on these trucks to get some time out of them, or do I keep sinking money into them, Local dealers have the same year trucks with the dually and body that I have and are askink between $18,000 - $22,000 with an average of 90-120,000 miles on them. I dont know, I just can rely on these trucks...

 

I bought mine used (23grand) almost a year ago. Carfax was clean, oasis showed some A/C work, and I've replaced alt and batteries. That's it in 140,000mi and it's driven at least 30mi every day. I am willing to fiddle with it and and closely monitor everything. In short I've become an enthusiast I guess. In your business situation I respect profit is the whole point and you are not interested in aftermarket turbo's, wheels, and subwoofers. It sounds like maybe these two trucks had some issues and the dealership/Ford didn't treat you right. Now what? If you've lost respect for Ford and your local dealers, I wouldn't go back. If you keep the trucks someone has to work on em so you'll have to find a shop you can trust. Because Ford dumbed down the instruments I would also slap a Scangauge in both just to watch the temps. On the other hand new trucks look professional and (depending on what our president does next) depriciating them might work out better in the long run. You would at least have different issues with the trucks and you could shop dealerships. First impressions are often correct. There is much info on the net about cost per mile with all the different brands. Good luck whatever you decide.

 

man i do feel your pain.... but some of that stuff is wear and tear, or faulty repair. 3 ac pump=job wasn't done right the first time. my 05 has 100k miles on stock size tires, and all original front end. and i do drive gravel trails with my truck camper. if your front end was bad that soon i would have taken it to an independent front end shop and get a full check, then take their quote back to ford and say fix it or i call the DOT and a good lawyer. if its covered by warranty and its out of spec, a safety item like ball joints can get the DOT interested

 

So let me get this straight. You started a thread... called "6.0 E350 are Garbage"... in the 6.0L Powerstroke forum... on the Ford Truck Enthusiasts web page... thinking "Naw... This won't tick anyone off."

And then started right off pissing about your crappy Ford trucks.

Yeah... Ain't too bright, are ya?

 

David, I guess your one of those, Im always right guys, wow.. I started the thread to vent and let other people know the problems im having with the garbage I was sold. As far as bright, I guess you got me there, cause I actually bought these trucks and have to live with it, but then again you bought a 6.0 too so how bright does that make you. Your one of those guys that attack someone for speaking up, I didnt attack anyone specific except Ford, Unless you were one of the developers. Im sorry if that offends you. But I guess your the one who's not too bright to personally attack someone for speaking their mind. I hope you have better luck with your 6.0 than I have, because unlike your feelings about me, I feel sorry for you... Wow, I wish I was as good as you..

 

My 6.0 has given me 65k trouble free miles. I'm having new ball joints put on it next week. It'll be my first major repair. And I'm not bitching about it.

You can speak your mind all you want to. Just don't be all too surprised when everyone else does the same.

 

Twisted I honestly do feel for you and the predicament your in! I can't say I would do any different as it appears you have spent enough on keeping them on the road to have replaced 1 with new! It's a no win situation and Ford has a majority of the blame for not treating you right, be it from a dealear or corporate standpoint, it still reflects the same! Sorry to have heard that you're experiences were not pleasant like mine! But you seem like a good guy so if we ever cross paths the single malts on me!
Jim...& fat Monty

 

High binder what the heck was that????????

 

David, I'm very happy your not having the problems I am. I never have a problem if you speak your mind, personal attacks are different, that being said I wish you nothing but the best with your truck. Hotrod, thanks for the support and I'm not totally sure but if I had to guess Highbinder is banging his head against the wall, exactly the way I'm feeling.

 

The A/C compressors going out can be tech error. After a compressor failure, the system needs to be completely flushed out or rapid failure will occur (sound familiar?). Ball joints are case by case. As far as the warranty issues go, look toward the fighting between Navistar and Ford. The engine is Navistar designed (not Ford).Any warranty claims go eventually through Navistar. Thus the fight, Navistar doesn't want to back claims. Ford dropped Navistar, and developed their own engine.

 

Twisted I'm with Jim I feel for you. Like you I am disappointed in my truck. I haven't put the money in to mine that you have but I have invested thousands in a truck with less than 60,000 miles and it appears I will be getting a third oil cooler for it soon. I have been very careful about doing the maintense on time or early so that is not the problem. But you can't blame Ford for the 6.0. Like Mark said they had no choice but to develop a new engine to meet pollution standards. Then diesel fuel went up and made our trucks the most expensive to fill up instead of the cheapest. Consumer Reports rates all three diesels below average in realibly. But what else can tow 20,000 pounds of weight? I love my truck but I'm not sure I would buy it again if I knew what I know now.

 

Randy, Thanks for backing me up. You were probably more PC for this forum than I was for this crowd.. I have always enjoyed my other trucks, and this van is no exception. Im heartbroken that I cant rely on the 2 Vans that I thought were the pride of my fleet. Having been in busness for 20 years, I can tell you that I have never had to endure a season like this with constant breakdowns. Ive had customers tell me they have seen my trucks at the dealer like every other day when they pass it going to and from work. Its a cross I will have to bare. Im hoping that I will get a day without repairs, although my partner informed that the wrench showed up on the dash this morning when he went to go fuel up. His truck was at the dealer and was picked up thursday... Thanks again, and Jim ill take you up on the single malts if we ever cross paths...

 

Why not trade them in right now? Seems you're just wasting money.