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Old Jul 22, 2011 | 11:30 AM
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Ok, ive decided to look into pulling the trigger on the turbo option for my truck as i think it should only help and benefit my truck, so im looking for more on what a turbo will add (what benefits other then more air into the engine) for my truck, will i get more power, if so where/how? i never had a turbo on any car before but I think honestly turbos are better in a truck anyways so I want to put one in, but want to get as much info on/about turbos and how it/they will help my truck out so im not just buying something off the word of some kid who knows nothing and just wants a sale of the most expensive thing to get a bigger commission...so I figure its time to ask you all before i put some serious cash down for it...

my truck is bone stock 5.0L 302 gears unknown (ill have to get the axle code i think?) but gearing is stock I know that much...so I await all the info i can assimilate for this project...


also what besides a turbo (additional) would/could help the 302 with lower end power (i want to keep my axles as they are now) and money is tight so this entire engine project is going to happen over a span of years not months

also i dont know if this will make a difference but this truck is a DD for me but it still will from time to time (not often but it does see action) gets used as a truck to haul things of varied weights and load sizes so i need to find ways to get both low and mid range (the engin has yet to break 4k RPM) highest its seem so far is 3.5k and thats if i were to floor board the pedal on her so i hope this helps some...

EDIT: planned upgrades in the near future are the following

K&N cold air intake (with mas air) (http://www.knfilters.com/search/prod...x?Prod=57-2543)
K&N high performance oil filter (http://www.knfilters.com/search/prod...x?Prod=PS-3001 or http://www.knfilters.com/search/prod...x?Prod=HP-3001)
 
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Old Jul 22, 2011 | 12:15 PM
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one thing i do know is that you will need forged internals of your engine as stock internals will not hold up to boost..and since you are going that far a full rebuild is in order and i would through in a couple goodies as well like a cam and new heads if you can afford it
 
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Old Jul 22, 2011 | 12:19 PM
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oh boy...this is gonna stink for me...I assume you read my post (i made a few changes as you may have been responding so you may want to check it over)

well as far as money im lucky I can see $100 for my expences but thats iffy as most of my money (with out a job) is going to food and rent

so as for budget its low...so what exactly would i be best to start with? air filters? oil filters and work up from that stuff or just jump in with cams and all?
 
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Old Jul 22, 2011 | 12:33 PM
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well the best thing to do is start savind up for parts..turbo swaps arent too cheap main reason why i have never done one lol...

if you are loking for some performance now that is cheaper i would recomend one throwing on a set of headers along with a high flow cat and a good muffler (magnaflow,flowmaster,etc)

that wil help a bit...along with some sort of better breathing aperatice like a cold air intake.. these are going to be the least expensive to start with..next would be a gear swap.

also a couple other things to look at as well..your 95 is maff right? i would get some mas air flow cleaner and clean your maff unit well and also clean up your egr valve or put in a new one..these are both cheap and help tons...
 
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Old Jul 22, 2011 | 12:38 PM
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ok, why would I want a high flow cat if my truck has no cat on it already? i don't want a cat if its only going to hinder performance/breathing of my truck.

Im working on saveing, i hope i get a job soon so i can start diverting more funds at a time to this project

as for cold air intake I have that planned already along with better oil filter
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well the best thing to do is start savind up for parts..turbo swaps arent too cheap main reason why i have never done one lol...

if you are loking for some performance now that is cheaper i would recomend one throwing on a set of headers along with a high flow cat and a good muffler (magnaflow,flowmaster,etc)

that wil help a bit...along with some sort of better breathing aperatice like a cold air intake.. these are going to be the least expensive to start with..next would be a gear swap.

also a couple other things to look at as well..your 95 is maff right? i would get some mas air flow cleaner and clean your maff unit well and also clean up your egr valve or put in a new one..these are both cheap and help tons...
 
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Old Jul 22, 2011 | 12:44 PM
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i didnt see you dont have a cat.. lol..then no dont put one in...there is just alot of stuf that goes into a turbo swap and alot of money...i would just recomend the exhaust and cai first..next i would swap in a cam
 
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Old Jul 22, 2011 | 12:47 PM
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I would vote against the K&N intake. It will actually hurt your overall performance since it's going to suck in warm engine bay air. Instead, buy just the drop-in K&N filter for your stock airbox, and go to a junkyard and get the lower airbox tube from either a 460 or 300 equipped Truck. Instead of pulling air from the top of the radiator, it will pull air from right behind the grill next to the radiator. This is going to give you the coldest intake charge without going completely custom.

Next, I'd recommend a full tuneup. Spark plugs (Autolite 25 IIRC), a quality set of wires, rotor, and cap, and I'd look up the SixLitre tuneup (Original article is on Full Size Bronco Forum). After bumping the timing a little bit, the engine should wake up.

I don't have any first and experience with the 5.0, but I know that upgrading to 1.7 rockers isn't too much of a challenge and others here have done it with great results; maybe one of them will chime in soon.
 
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Old Jul 22, 2011 | 12:47 PM
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exaust should be fine as is as it has no cats on it and its from what i can tell pretty free flowing already

so i guess its time to start looking into CAI then YAY!! that was one mod i planed for the truck anyways hehe
 
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Old Jul 22, 2011 | 12:54 PM
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do you have headers??

here is a link for the best write up i have found on the 6 liter tune up.. im just about to do this myself.. would higly reccomend it as well

ignition upgrade and timing bump (no 56K) - FSB Forums
 
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Old Jul 22, 2011 | 12:56 PM
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nope shes bone 100% stock as far as engine goes

cool, i think ill be looking for the help of a fellow FTE member thats done this thats close to me so i can have someone help me do it proper as i sadly seem to be able to screw stuff up even when i take a day to do it LOL!!! but its always good to have a second pair of hands to help out anyways so yea i think ill do the tune up also
 
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Old Jul 22, 2011 | 12:58 PM
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well then along with the 6 liter tune up look for a set of headers as well..and what about your muffler? if it is stock i would change that out as well..
 
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Old Jul 22, 2011 | 01:02 PM
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A turbo or supercharger running around 5 p.s.i. of boost should be safe with your motor if you have enough high test fuel. You cannot beat the power increase of forced induction. However, it can cost you a pretty penny. Of course, any way you go, more power = more money spent, more fuel used and less reliability.

I have added forced induction to 3 Miatas and one Intergra GSR. I also owned 2 Lancer Evos and a WRX. Only the most powerful and best built V8's will come close to what a regular motor in good condition will put down with boost and a good tune. The downside is that power is very addictive. You start chasing more power and adding more boost which will either destroy your motor or your wallet (or both).

A turbo charger (exhaust driven blower) will give you the most power, but the belt driven blowers are quite good too. Don't forget though, there is more to the turbo than just adding a blower to your intake.....
 
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Old Jul 22, 2011 | 01:11 PM
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well I do plan to do the 6L tune up (with the help of another FTE member who has done that before if possible) and the turbo is more to help the engine on lower RPMs as the engine right now never goes past 3.5k anyways and im not looking to do super ungodly amounts, just a little extra to help the engine out i would think 5Lbs is/would be enough? im not looking for a high performance race truck (if i want that ill go to NASCAR and get one of them) i just want a truck that can have what it needs to get more power on low end and mid range, give it a bit of oomph when starting off the line if/when i need it...
 
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Old Jul 22, 2011 | 01:24 PM
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a turbo wont help you in lower rmps as it takes time for the turbo to build boost.. hence the term turbo lag...if you want lower rpm power then a blower/supercharger is the way you want to go..for the money you would put into any of these set ups it may be better to actually do other mods like i listed above.. it would be cheaper and last longer in the long term
 
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Old Jul 22, 2011 | 01:40 PM
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