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Old Jul 17, 2011 | 05:32 PM
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AWD vs. 4x4

Was reading in on https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...results-2.html but didnt want to highjack thread. Is it possible to make one of our trucks an AWD vehicle? How would you accomplish this? What is the huge difference between AWD and 4x4?
 
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Old Jul 17, 2011 | 06:05 PM
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AWD usually has a center differential or a hydraulic coupling between the front and rear wheels to prevent the drive train from locking up on hard surfaces. Some are AWD all the time or only AWD when needed. AWD is intended for traction control on the road and to deliver the power to the wheels that need it.
Some 4x4 trucks had "full time" 4x4 that could be adapted.

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Old Jul 17, 2011 | 06:09 PM
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Any idea what trucks might have it and how i would adapt it to my 95 f150 with the e4od tranny? I just like the idea of AWD in a truck, especially since i think i am going to start racing on the track soon for the fun of it. Just looking for something to keep me busy.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2011 | 07:11 PM
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Back in the 70s some Dodge, Chevy, and I think Ford trucks had a full time system based on the New Process 203 transfer case. IIRC they were unpopular because of their poor gas mileage and kits were sold to make them part time. Jeep had the Quadratrack system a number of years in several models. I had a full time system on my Cherokee and it was great in the snow, but I'm pretty much a 4x2 guy.
Hopefully some of the more informed 4x4 members will chime in.
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Old Jul 17, 2011 | 07:24 PM
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Gas mileage isnt really an issue i just think it would be alot more efficient if im going 120mph to have AWD than just 2 wheel. that wat if my rear tires let loose on a turn i can still use my front use to counter it or w.e the case may be. Just seems more logical in a race vehicle if it is track., even drag it could help a bit.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2011 | 07:29 PM
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You DO NOT want to have the t-case, front driveshaft, and axles spinning at 120MPH. They are far from being designed for it. Go buy a Subaru WRX if you want a capable AWD vehicle for track racing
 
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Old Jul 17, 2011 | 07:30 PM
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Mmmm, alright, ill look at them. Either way would be nice to have a truck that could do that. So much more potential if it could
 
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Old Jul 17, 2011 | 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by rikard
Back in the 70s some Dodge, Chevy, and I think Ford trucks had a full time system based on the New Process 203 transfer case. IIRC they were unpopular because of their poor gas mileage and kits were sold to make them part time. Jeep had the Quadratrack system a number of years in several models. I had a full time system on my Cherokee and it was great in the snow, but I'm pretty much a 4x2 guy.
Hopefully some of the more informed 4x4 members will chime in.
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Great post, accurate info.

Have you ever though of buying a Syclone? Isnt that the pickup version as opposed to the Jimmy version? There are plenty of AWD SUV's out there. I"m pretty sure you can buy a V8 Mercury Mountaineer AWD.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2011 | 08:40 PM
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You talking to me about which system i could use? I plan on doing 120 constantly and as said not sure if that system would hold up on the track. You think the SUV system would sustain that much strain?
 
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Old Jul 17, 2011 | 09:13 PM
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Could always buy a raptor! A 95 150 going 120 in 4wd, going to take some work.
 
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You DO NOT want to have the t-case, front driveshaft, and axles spinning at 120MPH. They are far from being designed for it. Go buy a Subaru WRX if you want a capable AWD vehicle for track racing

HAHA i just thought of the douche bags with there cummins's that mommy and daddy bought tryin to get a "boosted launch" in 4wd and just completely destroying the tranny/tranfer case.

its sad that such an amazing motor is smothered by a crappy truck and dumb kids.
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Most high speed race cars out side of the rally circuit are mostly RWD. Mercedes and other companies have developed racing AWD systems over the years but the added weight and complexity has been a problem. Most of the street performance AWD systems are in cars which are half the weight of an F series truck. Most of the truck systems are for traction at low speeds (>70 Mph) and the most of the components would self destruct at the speeds you're looking at. Some of the Baja racers should have some of the info that might apply to what your trying to do.
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AWD Syclone Turbo 6 = Gen 2 lightning killer !


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I plan on doing 120 constantly
Good luck with that
 
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Old Jul 18, 2011 | 12:57 AM
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Good luck with that
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