Fricking 6.0 problem
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From: Claremore, OK
[quote=kpage;10555031]oil change place did the changeput in10-30 diesel oil and i used napa gold fuel filters, no modsit was a guess on thinking that heat had to do with the shut down no start issue..it was at operating temp.[quote=kpage;10555031]
Right now, I'm not certain it's the issue. But get that aftermarket POS filter out of your motor. Your not doing yourself any favors by MAYBE saving a couple of dollars. Also, if you've got the 5R100 (automatic tranny)...I strongly recommend keep the Bully Dog tuner off it. It screws up the shift strategy of the transmission.
[quote=kpage;10555031]If i have to run genuine ford filters and oil in this truck i have a 04 350 cc4x4 drw for sale cuz i aint gonna get raped to drive this thing.[quote=kpage;10555031]
Your driving a small commercial truck designed to drag 20k pounds down the road...all day long. How much did you think it would cost to operate it?
Exactly
Since I'm trying to play nice for the moment...here's exactly what you need and where to get them for the 6.0L
Oil Filter:
Ford 6.0 and 6.4 Liter Turbo Diesel Racor Filtration PFL2016 Oil Filter(FPL-2016) - Diesel Filters,Additives,brake rotors, and brake pads for Chevy, Dodge and Ford Diesel Trucks Yes, $14 for filter
Fuel Filter:
[PFF-4616] - Racor PFF4616- Ford 6.0 Liter Turbo Diesel Fuel/Water Seperator Filters: Pick Up & Excursion-REPLACES FD-4604/FD-4616 - Diesel Filters,Additives,brake rotors, and brake pads for Chevy, Dodge and Ford Diesel Trucks The one & only one I ever picked up at my local dealership was $90; this one is $35 and is the EXACT same filter.
Here's is all the rest of the filters/fuilds for the 6.0L:
Ford 6.0 Liter Turbo Diesel Truck Filters, Air Filters, Oil Filters, Transmission Filters And Glow Plugs - Diesel Filters,Additives,brake rotors, and brake pads for Chevy, Dodge and Ford Diesel Trucks
Right now, I'm not certain it's the issue. But get that aftermarket POS filter out of your motor. Your not doing yourself any favors by MAYBE saving a couple of dollars. Also, if you've got the 5R100 (automatic tranny)...I strongly recommend keep the Bully Dog tuner off it. It screws up the shift strategy of the transmission.
[quote=kpage;10555031]If i have to run genuine ford filters and oil in this truck i have a 04 350 cc4x4 drw for sale cuz i aint gonna get raped to drive this thing.[quote=kpage;10555031]
Your driving a small commercial truck designed to drag 20k pounds down the road...all day long. How much did you think it would cost to operate it?
Since I'm trying to play nice for the moment...here's exactly what you need and where to get them for the 6.0LOil Filter:
Ford 6.0 and 6.4 Liter Turbo Diesel Racor Filtration PFL2016 Oil Filter(FPL-2016) - Diesel Filters,Additives,brake rotors, and brake pads for Chevy, Dodge and Ford Diesel Trucks Yes, $14 for filter
Fuel Filter:
[PFF-4616] - Racor PFF4616- Ford 6.0 Liter Turbo Diesel Fuel/Water Seperator Filters: Pick Up & Excursion-REPLACES FD-4604/FD-4616 - Diesel Filters,Additives,brake rotors, and brake pads for Chevy, Dodge and Ford Diesel Trucks The one & only one I ever picked up at my local dealership was $90; this one is $35 and is the EXACT same filter.
Here's is all the rest of the filters/fuilds for the 6.0L:
Ford 6.0 Liter Turbo Diesel Truck Filters, Air Filters, Oil Filters, Transmission Filters And Glow Plugs - Diesel Filters,Additives,brake rotors, and brake pads for Chevy, Dodge and Ford Diesel Trucks
Lead Driver
Joined: Feb 2005
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From: The Great State of Texas
gas ford thats like buying a gas dodge. My point is if you have to spend twice as much at the dealer to get a truck to stay running whats the point. Never proclaimed to be a 6.0 expert or basher . Have had several cr motros and say just as many things about them. Sorry that i am expecting something to work with out having to baby it all the time.. But you bismic have basically been the only one that has given any helpful advice and i apreciate it, but theres not a single motor out there that is a god send in diesel world since they turned electric. I'm just frustrated with it and am getting tired of the "helpful' answers that i have been getting.it has been a 2 owner truck and had been serviced every 3 to 6k
Based on the information you provided I would take this truck to a well known compendent Ford shop and get it fixed. If the root cause of the problem is fixed you could have a very reliable truck for many years!
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Joined: Sep 2007
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From: Scio, OR
You can get genuine Motorcraft oil filters from Wal-Mart for $18. dieselfiltersonline is where I get my fuel filters, for about $50. Not really much more than the aftermarket stuff. Using will-fit aftermarket filters will screw up the engine eventually.
People here ARE trying to help you.
Check the batteries. Charge them overnight and load test them separately. Go up to the tech folder, find the thread on testing the FICM output voltage and do that. Those are two things that could be your problem that you can look into.
People here ARE trying to help you.
Check the batteries. Charge them overnight and load test them separately. Go up to the tech folder, find the thread on testing the FICM output voltage and do that. Those are two things that could be your problem that you can look into.
Postmaster
Joined: Feb 2006
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From: waynesville, mo.
No i know trouble is expected with used but in less then 24 hrs come on. Got a 96 i bought used and it runs like a charm..Checked with a bd tripple dog no dtc's, 01/04 mfg date, did before and after oil and filter change, oil change place did the changeput in10-30 diesel oil and i used napa gold fuel filters, no modsit was a guess on thinking that heat had to do with the shut down no start issue..it was at operating temp. havent tried trouble shooting other then research since apparently if you sneeze wrong in these trucks the motor refuses to start so was trying to narrow it down. New interstate batteries and the truck had been running for about 1 hr before and sat for 45 min at oil place then ran for maybe 20 min before it died. No have not checked do to the fact wasnt sure if that issue was do to any heat. If i have to run genuine ford filters and oil in this truck i have a 04 350 cc4x4 drw for sale cuz i aint gonna get raped to drive this thing..
Best i can figure is that it has something to do with sitting an idling since the dying issue has been done when it has idled for like 10 min or so. the no start is after the dying issue..If you cant idle it whats the point of running a diesel, my inlines had no idle issue and they would idle for hrs on end along with 2 dm motors and no issues..
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Joined: Apr 2008
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From: Green Lane, Pa.
You can get genuine Motorcraft oil filters from Wal-Mart for $18. dieselfiltersonline is where I get my fuel filters, for about $50. Not really much more than the aftermarket stuff. Using will-fit aftermarket filters will screw up the engine eventually.
People here ARE trying to help you.
Check the batteries. Charge them overnight and load test them separately. Go up to the tech folder, find the thread on testing the FICM output voltage and do that. Those are two things that could be your problem that you can look into.
People here ARE trying to help you.
Check the batteries. Charge them overnight and load test them separately. Go up to the tech folder, find the thread on testing the FICM output voltage and do that. Those are two things that could be your problem that you can look into.
You must be buying the Motorcraft fuel filters from dieselfiltersonline which are about $48 The Racor 4616's are $35.75 It's amazing how much the red dye cost to package them in a Motorcraft box.
Lead Driver
Joined: Sep 2007
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From: Scio, OR
No, I get the Racor ones. I just pulled the price out of my head, which doesn't work as well as it used to.
Lead Driver
Joined: Oct 2009
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From: Pa
Could the OP's HPOP be weak? Would that cause a shutdown, than allow a restart after cooling for a bit?
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From: Sioux City, IA
I'm surprised nobody has razzed him yet about buying a 6.0 without purchasing an aftermarket warranty plan.
If you've really only had the truck for 24 hrs, the dealership you bought it from will probably help you out.
If you bought it privately, then I guess you learned your lesson on that one.
If you've really only had the truck for 24 hrs, the dealership you bought it from will probably help you out.
If you bought it privately, then I guess you learned your lesson on that one.
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From: Green Lane, Pa.
If you think you got a problem now, wait until you get around my age. I was diagnosed with CRS several years ago.
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From: Eastern CT.
Bismic and vloney, know these trucks, very well,,vloney has some Great advice on what he has found,,and as a Master Ford Tech,,I would listen to him and get those Napa filter's out of there,,Motorcraft, Fram (same filters,, Racor)is what most guys run, I run Amsoil 15-40 Diesel & Marine in my 06' Six-O,,runs Great,,,will try 5-40 for this winter, for ease of starting.
Fuel filters are either Motorcraft, or I buy mine from an International (Navistar) dealer set of 2# 1847170C93(maybe updated # now) with the water block membrane
Good Luck with the New Cheap truck !!
Fuel filters are either Motorcraft, or I buy mine from an International (Navistar) dealer set of 2# 1847170C93(maybe updated # now) with the water block membrane
Good Luck with the New Cheap truck !!
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A buddy of mine recently replaced his 6.0 with a 5.9. One month later he had an injector failure while pulling a 5ther up a big hill and toasted a piston.
Should have stuck with the 6.0. He had the misconception that cummins was indestructable. "no wrenching required" he used to tell me.So go ahead and put your hopped up lawn tractor motor in there and see what it gets ya.
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A buddy of mine recently replaced his 6.0 with a 5.9. One month later he had an injector failure while pulling a 5ther up a big hill and toasted a piston. Should have stuck with the 6.0. He had the misconception that cummins was indestructable. "no wrenching required" he used to tell me.
So go ahead and put your hopped up lawn tractor motor in there and see what it gets ya.
Should have stuck with the 6.0. He had the misconception that cummins was indestructable. "no wrenching required" he used to tell me.So go ahead and put your hopped up lawn tractor motor in there and see what it gets ya.