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Old Jul 9, 2011 | 08:26 AM
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e4od front seal

i'v had this thing in&out 5 times
i'm at the point where i can have it out in an hour & change
the pump is pumping, cause i put the tc on empty & it fills up
when i put the pump in last time i spray painted , every thing white, incase it leaked again
and it did
it is leaking where the tc fits into the seal the best i can tell
wtf
will someone check the manual, see if crying is allowed
 
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Old Jul 9, 2011 | 08:40 AM
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Does the tc have a goove worn in it? You may have everything right maybe the old seal burned a groove in the tc not allowing the seal to well seal. And if you do cry make sure its in a beer.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2011 | 12:11 PM
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na-no crying----not at least till i get to try # 11
so this is what i did this morn.
took the pump out again,#$^&*#@#*(, & the tc)
tried mateing them , with the tc on the ground, pump on the top, pushing & spinning it on.
the damm seal is to loose!!!!!! slides right off!!
the other set of tc & pump i have , when you mate them, and just hold on to the pump , you can lift the tc off the ground.
here we go again
 
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Old Jul 11, 2011 | 08:34 PM
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ahh here's your latest.
did you go to napa and get the updated seal like i suggested Joe?

edit;
here.order this seal Joe and put your trans in for the last time.
sounds like wherever you went,you've been given the wrong seal altogether which has been causing you all this grieve.
and like i suggested in the first place,you really,really should just consider (if you can afford it) to buy the updated higher volume pump too.remember,i showed them used on ebay.just saying.now sure is the time.just be done with it already.
http://www.makcotransmissionparts.com/36070G.html
 
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 08:20 PM
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I don't have a part number off hand (but F250 is likely on the right track). I did install the updated seal in mine when I did it last. Ford still sells a grey silicone seal that i found to be quite fragile. Tried that once and it did leak on me. I traced it down to a tear the size of a grain of sand - I kid you not. Its really amaizing how little it takes. The seal and shaft have to be perfectly clean and well lubricated before assembly. Add to that, the stock silicone seal isn't as heat resistant as the blue viton seal.

I went into an autoparts outlet and gave them a part number, and they were able to get the seal off the shelf.

You wouldn't believe the amount of trouble I went through with my E4OD when I first put it in. Virtially all of it was due to my own mistakes and had everything from geartrain failures to sticking valve bodies to stubborn leaks from disturbing the tramission so many times so I know what its like. If you can afford to take a step back and do something else for a little while, then do that.

This is the list of possible causes of this sort of leak:

Main seal (most likely)
Pump body to case seal (Not likely if you see the leak coming from the shaft/converter hub)
Pump attaching bolts not seated or sealed properly (again, not likely)
Pump body cracked (not likely)
transmission case cracked (REALLY not likely)
Damaged pump bushing (but this was checked if I remember right)
Damaged converter hub shaft that tears into the fresh seal (this would be very obvious if it were the case)

All of those things can be found without having to tear into the transmission. This may or may not be what you want to hear, but unless you are positive there are deeper problems in the transmission, your easiest way out at this point is to still try and repair it again.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 08:12 AM
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thanks guys, again-----walk away for a day is a good idea
i'm so sore. i'm 6'5'' 250. &52 yrs old still strong as an ox----BUT-- i ain't 19- no more
and the humidity is around 95% today
that trans will not win
 
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