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Old Jul 9, 2011 | 12:19 AM
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Why not square containers ?

This is a little frivolous, but I was wondering why they don't put spackle and joint compound (and probably other stuff) in square containers.

I'm sure it's probably cost, but it would seem to be lot easier to get the right amount on your blade if the container was square.


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Old Jul 9, 2011 | 12:32 AM
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Often wondered that myself. It absolutely would.

It would also save a TON of space when packaging. Last time I looked, boxes, pallets and shipping containers weren't round either. You could use every available square inch for packaging and shipment.

But what do we know. We're just the end user.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2011 | 04:18 AM
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Joint compound DOES come in square containers--it comes in boxes lined with plastic bags, but it's generally only sold to the pro drywallers that way.

Also, even though joint compound says "ready-mixed" on the side of the bucket, it's much more usable if you add a little water, dish soap and mix it (even just mixing it makes it more workable). Square containers don't let you mix the contents thoroughly with a powered tool.

There are probably a bunch of other reasons related to the manufacture and processing of the packaging that make round containers a bunch cheaper.

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Old Jul 9, 2011 | 02:21 PM
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I was going to saythat about mixing the joint compound.
I then remember my framing days. Hand drives came in aquare buckets. Someone always managed to drop those buckets full of nails right on corners, and the buckets always busted wide open.
So now imagine the big mess you'ld have if you dropped a square bucket of joint compound.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2011 | 06:43 PM
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I was following a semi recently that was losing drywall mud all over the interstate. What a mess. I flagged him down before he lost too much.
 
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Originally Posted by ford2go
This is a little frivolous, but I was wondering why they don't put spackle and joint compound (and probably other stuff) in square containers.

I'm sure it's probably cost, but it would seem to be lot easier to get the right amount on your blade if the container was square.


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It is because cylinders are stronger than rectangles, top to bottom. Packaging is first and foremost a method of delivery.
 
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Old Jul 11, 2011 | 07:42 PM
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It is because cylinders are stronger than rectangles, top to bottom. Packaging is first and foremost a method of delivery.

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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 12:13 AM
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It is because cylinders are stronger than rectangles, top to bottom. Packaging is first and foremost a method of delivery.
I can buy that, and I presume that you're in a position to know.

Still, you'd think that it would be somewhat offset by the fact that there's less wasted space on pallets, etc. I have seen some things that come in squarish plastic containers, so I would think that it could be made strong enough.

And they could certainly promote the ease of use.

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I am sure that gas filled cylinders are the strongest possible container for that type of application too. Square edges would not hold up to pressure and damage.

I was wondering about the square container too while trying to reorganize round bottles and containers in my frige.
 
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Originally Posted by ford2go
I can buy that, and I presume that you're in a position to know.

Still, you'd think that it would be somewhat offset by the fact that there's less wasted space on pallets, etc. I have seen some things that come in squarish plastic containers, so I would think that it could be made strong enough.

And they could certainly promote the ease of use.

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I work in the packaging industry, so I have some insight. I am not an expert on pallet loads. But I know that with heavy products, like drywall mud, and even bottled water, the product is so dense that they sometimes cannot fill a van to the ceiling because of trucking restrictions. So they ship a lot of dead air space anyway. When designing pallet loads for warehousing, the number of pallets that can be stacked can be important. If the packaging can handle it, they may warehouse 3 pallets high. Warehouse space is expensive, and strong product containers can be cost effective. Not to mention the liability issues if a stack of pallets falls over. Which happens far too often.
 
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Originally Posted by bpounds
I work in the packaging industry, so I have some insight. I am not an expert on pallet loads. But I know that with heavy products, like drywall mud, and even bottled water, the product is so dense that they sometimes cannot fill a van to the ceiling because of trucking restrictions. So they ship a lot of dead air space anyway. When designing pallet loads for warehousing, the number of pallets that can be stacked can be important. If the packaging can handle it, they may warehouse 3 pallets high. Warehouse space is expensive, and strong product containers can be cost effective. Not to mention the liability issues if a stack of pallets falls over. Which happens far too often.
Ditto! I work for Coca-Cola...and a lot of time and money is spend on the bottle/can design. Not just for looks, but to hold weight. You can only branch out so far in a warehouse...so when you reach the limit, you gotta start stacking! A pallet of 2-liters and/or 1/2-liters weighs about 1700lbs....and fridgepacks/24-packs weigh 2060lbs. We stack them 3 high. We would go 4 pallets high on the cans, but our forklifts are not capable of those heights (20'+)




 
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