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Old Jul 8, 2011 | 06:10 PM
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problem with plug 4 on 5.4

thanks to this website and all the good threads and knowledge. been doing lots of reading last month or so on doing the plugs. used seafoam last 2 months. got the accel plugs. started this morning. used pb blaster. sprayed. let sit hour or so. broke all loose 1/2 turn. waited a bit. then started. 7 came out perfect. lots of screeching and popping, with turning backwards some also, but came out good. till plug 4 in back on passenger. idk what went wrong. it came out like the rest. till i tried retrieving it as i thought it was out. worked it for a bit nothing. got mirror and light. could see it had maybe 1/4 threads exposed, maybe. realized something had happened. worked it some more nothing. just spins maybe 1 to 1 1/2 turns then sort of jumps, can hear it. yeah that sucks. tried pushing back in. can get it to go in all the way back in or close as it does bottom. brought it back out. same spot and same jump. little down as i can only guess it's stripped and not coming. why it did this idk. was hoping all plug 4 did was pull apart, have the lisle tool here for this. and it's no use to me. any ideas on this guys? really not psyched about pulling head. i'm sure i can seat it again and it probably work. but it still must come out at some point. no idea if there is some solution to this or if i need to just start getting ready to do the heads

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Old Jul 8, 2011 | 08:05 PM
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I doubt its stripped. It prob broke and the porcelain is keeping it from coming out. Loosen it up all the way and snap it off with a screwdriver to get it out. Then use the Lisle tool to get the ground shield out.
 
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Old Jul 8, 2011 | 08:21 PM
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think i may go that route in morning. read somewhere just now that one guy removed the computer from firewall and cleared everything else out of the way. i can get around pretty easily in the engine bay and didn't do this. will in morning, remove computer etc and get better access, and hope i can get it broke, or see more of what is issue, and remove with my lisle tool

thanks for the help
 
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Old Jul 8, 2011 | 11:41 PM
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Not sure if this will work or not, but try breaking it and then use the lisle tool.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2011 | 10:31 AM
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Take the computer and bracket out then pull the harness up and tuck it behind the air box next to the firewall. You will be amazed at how much more room you have.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2011 | 05:58 PM
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yeah did that first thing this morning. should of had more thought and did it from start. who knows if plug 4 would still have done this of course.

with mirror, plug looks backed out further than i thought. possibly just few threads left. still just spins and can't break it either, just bend screwdriver tip. even if break though, wouldn't i still have problem of getting the actual plug to come out the threads of head? the lisle tool i knows works if it pulls apart and leaves the sleeve inside. just don't see how breaking it off on top would let me use the tool. unless doing that would force the tool to force the threads to cut a way out and all come out at once idk. i'm game for whatever works, just can't picture what your saying.

to me though just seems i'll be forced to get head off. i'll do it if have to. just sucks truck is an 05 with 65k miles. looks like it can be done with motor still in truck, looks to be enough room around back, don't care to pull the tranny if not have to. but still, looking to avoid this all together.

thanks for the suggestions and help
 
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Old Jul 10, 2011 | 08:15 PM
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update. and thanks guys. got plug 4 out today. dad came by. few hours later we had it broke and out. i put the lisle tool to work, and did exactly like the instructions said and it all went great. great job lisle on a good tool. vacuumed few times and use low pressure air and more vacuum. then went to do plugs and found one of the 8, the porcelain on bottom was broke free and moving up and down, so waiting on another box of em. not big deal. but thanks about the breaking it off. that's what the whole deal was. it kept spinning cause threads were out, but shield got lodged and was holding it. broke it and done. much thanks. now can throw on the lift that's sitting here waiting on this. will post pics in other thread, truck should look good
 
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Old Jul 10, 2011 | 10:04 PM
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Outstanding. I'm glad you got it out. I have had to break a few off before.
 
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