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Old Jul 1, 2011 | 09:39 PM
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powerstoke coolant flush

Im getting ready to change coolant in my '96 powerstroke. Ive read a lot on here on the idi's, my question is, as far as coolant types are there any differances between the idi's and powerstrokes? Here is one of the articles im talking about.


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Old Jul 1, 2011 | 09:44 PM
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Do a google search for Gooch's Coolant Flush, there's some good info in the write-up about what coolants to use.
 
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Old Jul 2, 2011 | 12:05 AM
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and when your done flushing be sure to open both drain plugs in the block to get ALL of the fluid out. One plug is above the starter and the other is on the other side, not hard to get at like the one above the starter.
 
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Old Jul 2, 2011 | 05:14 AM
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do you have to remove the starter?
 
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Old Jul 2, 2011 | 07:45 AM
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no the starter doesnt have to be removed
 
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Old Jul 2, 2011 | 07:59 AM
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I wouldn't flush it. Its just not worth opening up that can of worms. I have an IDI and two powerstrokes and have rebuilt many of each. They both do show signs of cavitation when not cared for properly. The problem I have with powerstrokes is any chemical flushing agent you use, no matter how mild it is can just cause nothing but problems. There are too many places for internal leaks ad any one of them is a complete waste of time trying to diagnose. You just have to start tearing down the heads and the front cover and replacing ever gasket and injector cup.
Just don't do it. Even if 99% of the trucks out there won't develop a leak, do you want to risk being in that 1%?
Just drain and fill it. Use the two block drains and get all that you can out then use 50/50 green stuff and DCA.
 
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Old Jul 2, 2011 | 09:25 AM
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so just drain the plugs? nothing else?
 
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Old Jul 2, 2011 | 09:26 AM
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Do a google search for Gooch's Coolant Flush, there's some good info in the write-up about what coolants to use.
Ithink this is it :
Replacing the water pump is a perfect time to do a complete coolant flush. In fact the condition of your coolant can usually be directly attributed to water pump (seal) failure.

If you just plan on topping off after doing the pump, then try to use the same type of coolant that's already in there...most likely a conventional heavy duty, low-silicate, green coolant meeting ASTM 4985, ASTM 6210, or Ford's ESE-M97B44-A. There are too many brands to list. You'll want the top-off coolant concentrate pre-mixed with distilled water at 50/50. You'll also want to test for the proper level of SCA, and add DCA-2 or DCA-4 as necessary.

If you plan on doing a complete flush (recommended), I would suggest using a pre-charged, heavy duty, low-silicate coolant. These coolants will also meet ASTM 4985, ASTM 6210, or Ford's ESE-M97B44-A. But they come with the perfect amount of SCA already added to them, so you won't need to add any on the initial fill (after flushing). However, you will need to still test and maintain them thereafter, but I'll think you'll find they are very robust and require less maintenance. These are coolants like Peak Fleetcharge, Fleetguard Compleat, Shell Diesel Ready, Zerex Pre-Charge, Prestone Heavy Duty, Texaco Heavy Duty, and a host of others. They are usually purple, pink, blue, or green. You'll want the concentrate (not 50/50) for the flush job. I'll list some flush procedures below.

If you feel like rolling the dice, some early build PSD owners take advantage of the benefits of silicate-free heavy duty Extended Life Coolants (HD ELC's). But International, who made your engine, only approved the use of those coolants for engines built 2/2/99-up (SN 940614-up). That is when they revised internal engine components to be compatible with ELC (gaskets, seals, o-rings, front cover, sensors, and whatever else). These are extremely robust coolants requiring zero maintenance and additives. Very long life. However, I do not recommend these for your '97, although many owners use them with success.


Here's my flushing procedure write-up for the '99-up 7.3L with the 8-gallon cooling system. Your '97 should be very similar, and I think you'll get the idea. It looks harder than it is.

You'll need the following:

4 gallons of anti-freeze concentrate. In agreement with International who made your engine, I recommend a conventional coolant with SCA, or a pre-charged conventional coolant for the early 99's (pre-2/2/99). For all other 99-up PSD's I recommend a Heavy Duty ELC. But the choice of coolant is yours.

SCA (if using conventional un-charged coolant). Amount depends on the SCA maker (usually 3-4 pints).

Up to 20 gallons of distilled water (you may use less if your tap water quality is excellent requiring less flushing).

A Prestone flush kit with "T".

1-1/2 foot of 3/4" hose (to go on flush "T").

A new thermostat gasket.

Possibly a new thermostat, new coolant filter (if you've added one), or any hoses or hose clamps that you think may need replacing.


Flushing procedure:

Park truck on level surface. Allow to cool.

Turn in-cab heater valve all the way to "hot".

Remove degas bottle cap slowly (be careful if hot).

Drain radiator at pet-**** (bottom left-hand driver's side) into suitable container. Expect at least a 5-gallon bucket-full.

Remove lower radiator hose (at radiator) and drain any sediment and/or coolant from radiator and hose into container.

Remove driver's side block plug with 1/4" socket wrench driver, and drain coolant into suitable container.

Remove passenger's side block plug with 1/4" socket wrench driver, and drain coolant into suitable container (this is best done without an extension on the wrench, working under the truck from the top rear side of starter - no need to remove starter).

Remove thermostat housing and thermostat.

Re-install thermostat housing without thermostat, using old gasket (it's ok if it leaks a little while flushing).

Re-install both block plugs finger-tight.

Re-install lower radiator hose temporarily.

Close radiator pet-****.

Remove heater hose at passenger's side coming off the engine (just below intercooler tube).

Install that heater hose to one end of the flush "T".

Install 1 1/2 foot of 3/4" hose to other end of flush "T".

Install the remaining end of the 3/4" hose to fitting where the original hose was removed from.

*Note*: You could permanently install the flushing "T" in the heater hose if desired.

Install garden hose onto flush "T".

Turn garden hose on until clear water (no green tint) runs (backflushes) out of top of degas bottle. This will take several minutes.

With hose still on, start and run engine for a couple of minutes, again until water coming out of degas bottle is clear (no green tint).

Turn engine off. Turn garden hose off.

Drain radiator at petcock, remove both block plugs, remove lower radiator hose.

Remove flushing "T", the extra 3/4" hose, and reinstall the original heater hose to engine.

Close radiator petcock, reinstall and finger-tighten both block plugs, reinstall lower radiator hose (permanently).

Fill system with distilled water until the degas bottle is full.

Run engine a couple of minutes.

Drain radiator petcock, remove both block plugs.

Close radiator petcock, reinstall and finger-tighten both block plugs.

Again, fill degas bottle with distilled water.

Run engine a couple of minutes.

Drain radiator petcock, remove both block plugs.

Close radiator petcock permanently.

Install both block plugs and tighten permanently.

(You may decide to flush with distilled water one more time if your tap water is extremely bad).

Install thermostat and new thermostat gasket.

Add 4 gallons of anti-freeze concentrate to the degas bottle.

If using SCA, add it to cooling system per SCA manufacturer's instructions (usually 3-4 pints).

Add distilled water to finish filling the system until the degas bottle indicates between min/max.

Replace degas bottle cap.

Rinse off any coolant from engine and underbody of vehicle.

Run engine (or drive truck for faster heating), until thermostat opens and hot air is felt through heater in cab. Periodically check coolant level adding distilled water as necessary. If heater does not get hot (or stay hot), it may be necessary to rev engine or purge air from the cooling system.

Add distilled water until level equalizes (min/max mark) in degas bottle. (this may take several days).

Use test strip to test and add SCA if applicable.

This method will yield approximately a 50/50 mixture of coolant/distilled water. If in cold climates, it is always best to have the freeze protection tested with a quality refractometer.

Write down date and mileage of coolant maintenance for future use.
 
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Old Jul 2, 2011 | 09:44 AM
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How do you do it Rick? Amazing!

I've done the plug above the starter both ways, with the starter on and with the starter off. Yes, its a pain.
 
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Old Jul 2, 2011 | 12:28 PM
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How do you do it Rick? Amazing!

I've done the plug above the starter both ways, with the starter on and with the starter off. Yes, its a pain.
Over the years I have saved a lot of info that was posted on the sites I hang out on ...
 
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Old Jul 2, 2011 | 12:30 PM
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I agree i'm not going to use any type of cleaning agent, just water. I didnt know about the 2 removable plugs on the block though.
 
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Old Jul 2, 2011 | 08:44 PM
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I'm sure Rick has a picture, lol. Rick, every time I save something and get a pretty good list my computer, it crashes. I have to learn to back up my data!

Dieselaholic, don't let them bother you, the one above the starter is your only choice. The one on the drivers side is IIRC a 1/4" pipe thread plug.
 
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Old Jul 3, 2011 | 01:35 AM
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I replaced both drain plugs with radiator drain fittings. That way I can add a hose to them and lead the drained water to a bucket instead of taking a bath in coolant.

I get just over a gallon out on each side.
 
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Old Jul 3, 2011 | 09:23 AM
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That's a good idea, its amazing how much is in there.
 
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