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Old Jun 17, 2011 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by gr8scott72
Well that answered a whole bunch of nothing.
Stuff likes this does happen. I am at work right now, and am currently sitting one city block from a man who has a fully loaded 2010 Camaro SS with less than 80 miles on it sitting in his driveway covered up. I would have bought it instead of the new Tahoe I just bought if it wasn't a 6 speed manual transmission. If this man keeps this Camaro for 5 or 6 more years, it will probably only have 1,000 miles on it at most.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2011 | 01:57 PM
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$75,000, what kind of crack is this person smoking? A 6 year old vehicle as that was more then likely listed new 6 YEARS AGO for just over $46,000 magically added 20,000 because some plastic is still on it?

I would love to meet the person the placed that bid, as I have "something" to sell them!
 
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Old Jun 17, 2011 | 02:17 PM
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I just checked his feedback. He has sold toner cartdiges, guitar stands; parts, manuals, even a HD Sportster and FX! But not 1 vehicle recently.....

I'm not saying it's a scam, but......
 
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Old Jun 17, 2011 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by VaSheriff
Stuff likes this does happen. I am at work right now, and am currently sitting one city block from a man who has a fully loaded 2010 Camaro SS with less than 80 miles on it sitting in his driveway covered up. I would have bought it instead of the new Tahoe I just bought if it wasn't a 6 speed manual transmission. If this man keeps this Camaro for 5 or 6 more years, it will probably only have 1,000 miles on it at most.
Oh, I understand that and have personally experienced it when I was selling cars but his email answer did not explain any of that. It only repeated what was already posted in the listing and then it offered a funny story of how an Excursion, if available now, would sell for $75,000 even though Ford has NO truck that is that expensive right now.

(At the dealership I work at, we traded for a 96 Mustang Cobra in about 2001 iirc that only had 3,200 miles on it.)
 
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Old Jun 17, 2011 | 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by VaSheriff
We run a dealership, and the Excursion is the Owner's Cousin's. It's in storage now and not on our lot. He purchased this Excursion and a Ford GT both at the same time, and he is trying to sell them both. It quite literally has the original plastic all intact. Hardly any miles, and its virtually brand new. If this would sell new now, it would be selling for around $75,000. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask. Thanks!
What kind of 'fuzzy math' is he using?! Great, in storage, but unless it was run the engine seals are gone...unless it was driven the transfer case and diffs are nasty inside...and with emissions, fuel, gas guzzler taxes and whatever else they can find to throw at us, I doubt too many folks would shell out $75,000.

Unless they were crazy - ah, I mean 'dedicated' like all of us are!
 
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Old Jun 18, 2011 | 01:37 AM
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for $75,000 why not just buy a 2011 Excursion from Custom Auto's By Tim. If I had an extra 70k I would not spend it on a 6 yr old truck even with the low milage.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2011 | 09:32 AM
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No idea what this seller is thinking but from the looks of it they may be thinking this is a museum piece, who else would pay that kind of money other than a collector with lots of disposable green or a museum. Maybe they'll buy the Ford GT the seller has up right along with it....
 
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Old Jun 18, 2011 | 12:43 PM
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When I was looking for my excursion about a year ago, I saw that same one with the same description on ebay. It's easy to remember because of the mileage and plastic. Either it never sold or they decided to try the scam again. Who knows.
 
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Old Jun 19, 2011 | 07:48 AM
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I'm more interested in the GT which may be available.
 
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Old Jun 19, 2011 | 08:47 AM
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No idea what this seller is thinking but from the looks of it they may be thinking this is a museum piece, who else would pay that kind of money other than a collector with lots of disposable green or a museum. Maybe they'll buy the Ford GT the seller has up right along with it....
"Museum Piece". That was my thought on this truck, assuming that it exists and is "as advertised".

I'm aware of a ~71 Corvette with 8 (yes, EIGHT) miles on the odometer. Family had lots of money and bought 2 new Corvettes 40 years ago. Their kid drove one, the other was parked after driving it home. It's trailered all over, and has even been in the Corvette Museum in Bowling Green.

But who in their right mind would park and garage a truck????
 
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Old Jun 19, 2011 | 09:33 AM
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Oh, for an "unpost" button. After a bit of digging, the picture is becoming a lot clearer.


The eBay listing for this vehicle is here:

Ford : Excursion | eBay

The two bids, ($55,000 and $55,100) don't meet the reserve, so there is no requirement to sell. (eBay won't automatically initiate the sell transaction at the end of the bidding.) The reserved is obviously over $50,000 -- the eBay "buyer protection" limit. If it is a scam, you're gambling with your own money.

There are two "bidders".

The high bid is by a guy that has placed 21 total bids. All on vehicles and all in the last week.

Bidding Details - high bid

The original bid is by a guy that has placed 20 total bids. All on vehicles and all in the last 8 days.

Bidding Details - first bid


The post to eBay isn't designed to sell this X. The fact that $55,000 doesn't buy it is a huge red flag. And the only 2 bids are by new accounts that seem to have been used exclusively to drive up other bids. (It would be interesting to see where those two bidders have posted.)

There is a Victory Lane Ford in Litchfield, Ill and the user that is selling the X has been registered with eBay since 1999. So on the surface there is some legitimacy to this.

My guess is that this is advertising. The dealership has put a "brand new" X on eBay that can't possibly sell and all it's cost them is the ad. They've got less than $100 in an ad that will likely generate quite a bit of curiosity, if not genuine interest. And that's how dealerships make money. Get someone "in the door" and let the sales people do their work.

Of course, the dealership doesn't actually have possession of the X. Note that the pictures were taken in someone's driveway. Also, the dealership's web page has no mention of a 2005 Excursion.

It's shady, but probably legal.

Toreador_Diesel points out the discrepancy in the front grille. I don't know the local laws, but it would seem that they can always claim that this was a special order. Or as long as it's not sold (and they never had any intention of actually selling it) there may not be an actual fraud/scam.
 

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Old Jun 19, 2011 | 02:25 PM
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eBaY couldn't care less about bonafide shillers.

The higher these shillers drive the price up, the more money eBaY makes.
 
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