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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 11:56 AM
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66 truck 65 engine?

I am picking up a 1966 f350 dually with the 352 that has the gold valve covers but i found out from your forums the gold valve covers were only in the 1965 trucks. the guy says everything is original. could i have a 65 engine in the 66 truck? or do i actually have a 65 truck? I am a newbie to this stuff so any help is greatly appreciated. thanx chris
 
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 01:23 PM
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post up the VIN number and info from the warranty tag.... its on the drivers door by the latch.

then someone here can tell you exactly what year it is.
 
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 01:30 PM
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Thank you, i will do that. I should have it in about 2 weeks. Looking forward to bringing the 350 back to life.
 
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 02:42 PM
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Welcome to the gang partner These guys here will help you w\ all the info\ advice you need. Not too many can have that in their garage, take a million pictures befor you rip it apart, they will be indespensable 2 yrs. from now
 
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 05:00 PM
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Thanx for the advice

Thanx again for the advice. I can tell i have come to the right place. Now that you have me thinking i believe i will video every thing plus photos. Keep it coming! Thanx, chris
 
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Old Jun 15, 2011 | 07:43 AM
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All 1960/65 Passenger Cars, Trucks, 1961/65 Econoline engine blocks, heads, intake manifolds, waterpumps, oil pans and etc were painted black.

The valve covers were painted specific colors, as this was the way FoMoCo ID'd the engine sizes for mechanics/bodymen.

However, trucks may use one specific color for valve covers for a certain engine, while Passenger Cars may use the same color for a different engine!

Example: 1965 F100/350 352: Black engine, Gold valve covers / 1965 Passenger Car 289 2V: Black engine, Gold valve covers.

1965 Passenger Car 352 2V: Black engine, Blue valve covers.

1966: All engines were painted Ford Corporate Blue for the first time, including the valve covers and dry type (paper filter) air cleaners.

The oil bath air cleaners were painted black regardless of what color the engine was painted.

btw: This specific valve cover color jazz was first used in 1952, when FoMoCo introduced OHV engines (215 I-6 Ford Passenger Cars/Trucks & 317 V8 [Y block], used in Lincoln's).
 
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Old Jun 15, 2011 | 09:04 AM
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Thanx numberdummy

Im supposed to be getting some more picts of the truck soon. Thanx again
 
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Old Jun 15, 2011 | 09:25 AM
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Post the last 6 digits of the VIN (will be all numbers if a 1961/66). That will define the month/year the truck was assembled.

Or, you can post the entire 11 digit VIN, all the codes from the Warranty Plate. All of it can be decoded.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2011 | 09:57 AM
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Thanx numberdummy

I will do that as soon as i get it. Thanx again
 
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Old Jun 15, 2011 | 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
Example: 1965 F100/350 352: Black engine, Gold valve covers / 1965 Passenger Car 289 2V: Black engine, Gold valve covers.

1965 Passenger Car 352 2V: Black engine, Blue valve covers.
So the valve covers on a 352 4V passenger car were gold, right?
 
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Old Jun 15, 2011 | 09:57 PM
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July 31, 1965 - Last 1965 F100 rolls off assembly line. August 1, 1965 - First 1966 F100 rolls off the assembly line.

It would be interesting to see or hear about how the changeover was accomplished from someone who was around when it happened.
 
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Originally Posted by 1972RedNeck
So the valve covers on a 352 4V passenger car were gold, right?
I don't recall, but I kinda doubt it, seeing how gold valve covers were used on 289 2V's.

1963/64 390 valve covers reverse embossed THUNDERBIRD were gold. These were used in Bird's, Custom/Galaxie/XL500's.

1963/64 352 2V valve covers were reverse embossed FORD and were blue.

Every year from 1952 thru 1965, FoMoCo sent wall charts and boxes of booklets to dealers with all the valve cover color codes defined for cars/trucks.

The booklets were passed out to wholesale accounts as were the wall charts, but only to the chosen few, cuz FoMoCo only sent about a dozen.

I wish I had some (all), but haven't seen any since grandma was a gal.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2011 | 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by OldHarley
July 31, 1965 - Last 1965 F100 rolls off assembly line. August 1, 1965 - First 1966 F100 rolls off the assembly line.
FoMoCo was still assembling 1965's in early August 1965, the changeover to 1966's occurred mid August.

1965 serial number range: 580,001-731,999.

August 1965 serial number range: 720,000-731,999.
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1966 serial number range: 732,000-913,999

August 1965 serial number range: 732,000-745,999.

These numbers included all Series' of trucks, Econolines and Bronco's (introduced September 1965), not just F Series trucks.

So, the first 1966 off the line coulda been an F100, C Series Tilt Cab, P Series Parcel Delivery, E100 or whatnot.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2011 | 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
I don't recall, but I kinda doubt it, seeing how gold valve covers were used on 289 2V's.

1963/64 390 valve covers reverse embossed THUNDERBIRD were gold. These were used in Bird's, Custom/Galaxie/XL500's.

1963/64 352 2V valve covers were reverse embossed FORD and were blue.

Every year from 1952 thru 1965, FoMoCo sent wall charts and boxes of booklets to dealers with all the valve cover color codes defined for cars/trucks.

The booklets were passed out to wholesale accounts as were the wall charts, but only to the chosen few, cuz FoMoCo only sent about a dozen.

I wish I had some (all), but haven't seen any since grandma was a gal.
My brother had an original 352 out of a '65 Galaxie. I am almost sure that the valve covers were gold.
 
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Old Jun 16, 2011 | 10:35 AM
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Thanks 1972 redneck

Can you or anyone out there tell me where to look on the block itself to gather more info? Thanx in advance
 
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