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Old Jun 17, 2011 | 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by LSchicago2
Did you pull into the weigh stations?
Yeah, I pay for 30,000 lb registration.
I only pass those stations that say "above 20,000 GVW"
 
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Old Jun 18, 2011 | 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by LSchicago2
Yes, because that means I could load my 19,500 truck up another 6500 pounds. Because I have a 26,000 pound plate. Better yet, let me buy an 80,000 pound plate for my F550 and I could haul anything! Talk about stupid laws......
I'm sorry brother but your the one being stupid. What's hard to understand how your truck is tagged? Real simple well here in Al. Any way. -8k lbs standard, 8k-10k p1, 10k-12k xa/ma, 14-16k x1 all the way to x9. A f1 tag is good for 30k.
My f250 has a gvwr of 8,800 lbs. How do I tag it? P1? Well the law say that a p1 tagged vehicle can gross no more than 10k lbs. So how am I over weight? They can't make you tag the vehicle to a weight then not let you gross that. The state only uses your ratings to justify the tagging and if any cdls or dots ect are to be needed. Noone is talking about grossing their pickup truck 80,000 lbs. Come on guys use some common sense.
The weight rating are not to fail nor are they a number that a engineer or lawyer told Ford to put on their truck for liabilty reasons. Look at the DMV rules and laws and you can clearly see what's going on. These SDs are a commerical grade truck. Ford couldn't push these trucks if everybody had to have cdl or dots or whatever to drive. The brake ratings isn't going to be less than the axle and tire rating. The frames on these things have much more of a rating than 10k.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2011 | 06:43 AM
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You sir, are clueless.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2011 | 08:20 AM
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LSchicago2... Did you already scratch up the fender on your new truck? (Above the fender emblem)
 
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Old Jun 18, 2011 | 11:24 AM
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LSchicago2... Did you already scratch up the fender on your new truck? (Above the fender emblem)
You had me scared! That's a dealer decal in the shape of Illinois.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2011 | 03:37 PM
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Just to add 2 cents here from BC. The commercial vehicle safety inspectors here do not care one bit about manufacturers' GVW ratings, their only concern is that the registered weight covers whatever load you're carrying, whether it's only the truck or GCVWR. Mine is registered for 14,200kgs (31,240#), and that's my calculated weight of the truck maxed for capacity as well as the 14000# trailer maxed as well. They would've care if I was hauling twice that, as long as it was registered for it.
Would I haul way more than the truck is rated for? No, but that's why I bought a 2wd 550 instead of an F350.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2011 | 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Persona
Would I haul way more than the truck is rated for? No, but that's why I bought a 2wd 550 instead of an F350.
Don't you see in your province those F350 or mostly 1 ton Dodge pulling 30,000 lb car hauling trailers?
They are all over West Coast. I wonder if somebody sees them on East Coast?
 
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Old Jun 18, 2011 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Kajtek1
Don't you see in your province those F350 or mostly 1 ton Dodge pulling 30,000 lb car hauling trailers?
They are all over West Coast. I wonder if somebody sees them on East Coast?
Yes I see them, to be legal in BC now you need a "heavy trailer" endorsement to pull over 10,500#...1-tons pulling massive toy-haulers is kinda stupid, in my opinion. Every guy thinks his (insert brand name) 1T dually is a semi and therefore invincible.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2011 | 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Persona
Every guy thinks his (insert brand name) 1T dually is a semi and therefore invincible.
Yet, the keep on doing that even in bigger numbers and bigger capacity. Have seen couple times already double-decker car hauler hooked up to 1-ton.
I don't keep records, but seems 75% of those haulers are Dodge. Never have seem GMC/Chevy in such a set up.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2011 | 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by LSchicago2
That will not get you out of an overweight ticket from truck enforcement if your GVW is over. I have a 26,000# plate on a 19,500# GVW. The state will write me if I am over 19,500#.
Originally Posted by LSchicago2
My 2011 F550 has tire ratings of 15,000 rear, and 7,940 front. Total = 22,940#
It has spring & axle ratings of 14,706 rear, and 6,500# front. Total = 21,206#
The registered weight is 26,000# Illinois has no plates between 16,000 & 26,000#
The factory GVW is 19,500#. This is the amount It can legally weigh. MAX 19,500.
Originally Posted by LSchicago2
The lowest rating number wins! Even if I am registered for 26,000, GVW 19,500, if I used tires that are only 18,000 gross that is what the truck enforcement would hold me to. They don't want you to exceed a single rating.
IL has some pretty messed up truck laws, seems like a money grab to me. In MN, you can go over your GVWR all you want, as long as the truck is registered for the weight it's carrying, and you don't exceed your tire ratings. Every state is different though. These trucks can handle a lot more weight than their rated for, especially with air bags, timbrens, etc. Most states get that, IL doesn't seem to. I don't make a habbit of spending too much time in IL, and regret having to drive through it a couple times a year on my way out east.

A couple examples, my 05 F350 crew cab is registered for 15k, but only has an 11k GVWR. I've scaled it at 14,600 with the plow and salt spreader on plus a full load of salt (plow and spreader with no load put it right at GVWR). It handled great, as it was very well balanced with the plow on it. My 03 F350 Chassis Cab Dually has a ridiculously low 11,200 GVWR, it's also registered at 15k, and has been loaded to 14,900 with no issues. I really don't understand the 11,200 GVWR on this truck as it has a 9750 RAWR . Working on putting an 03 F550 into service. It has a GVWR of 17,500, and I registered it for 21k, as the 18k sticker will be too low with a full load of salt (5 tons) and a plow on the front. I don't expect it to go much past 19k if at all.
 
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Old Jul 23, 2011 | 11:07 PM
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I have a 2011 4x2 supercab XLT 6.2 gas 3.73 gvwr 10K....load stickers says 3575
 
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