Confusing allowable weight stickers
Cargo Master
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From: Alberta, Canada
So, I got to the local Cat commercial scale with the truck full of gas and me (225), but otherwise empty. Here's the result:
Steer Axle: 4880 lbs
Drive Axle: 3320 lbs
Gross Weight: 8200 lbs
The B pillar stick gave the GVWR as 10,000 lbs, so that would say that I can safely haul 1,800 lbs without exceeding the GVWR.
That's consistent with the "Tire and Loading Information" sticker on the B Pillar which states "The combined weight of occupants and cargo should never exceed 1,998 lbs." I suspect the difference between the 1,998 and 1,800 is me and the full tank of gas.
The only odd part is the rear axle and tire capacities. The rear GAWR (sticker) is 6100 lb. The tires are rated at 3,415 lbs (6,830 lbs total). That would imply that I could put 6,100 - 3320 = 2,780 lbs in the rear without overloading the axle or tires.
I guess the bottom line is I can put about 2,000 lbs in the back versus the 3,450 in the product brochure. Never believe marketing materials.
Steer Axle: 4880 lbs
Drive Axle: 3320 lbs
Gross Weight: 8200 lbs
The B pillar stick gave the GVWR as 10,000 lbs, so that would say that I can safely haul 1,800 lbs without exceeding the GVWR.
That's consistent with the "Tire and Loading Information" sticker on the B Pillar which states "The combined weight of occupants and cargo should never exceed 1,998 lbs." I suspect the difference between the 1,998 and 1,800 is me and the full tank of gas.
The only odd part is the rear axle and tire capacities. The rear GAWR (sticker) is 6100 lb. The tires are rated at 3,415 lbs (6,830 lbs total). That would imply that I could put 6,100 - 3320 = 2,780 lbs in the rear without overloading the axle or tires.
I guess the bottom line is I can put about 2,000 lbs in the back versus the 3,450 in the product brochure. Never believe marketing materials.
Fleet Mechanic
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That will not get you out of an overweight ticket from truck enforcement if your GVW is over. I have a 26,000# plate on a 19,500# GVW. The state will write me if I am over 19,500#.
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From: Richmond, VA
According to Ford's 2011 Super Duty brochure, an F-250, SRW, 4x4, Crew Cab has a maximum payload weight of 3,250 lbs.
I didn't consider the difference in weight between the gas vs. diesel engine. Looking in other tables in the brochure, it looks like the diesel truck is about 1,000 pounds heavier. Add in the fifth wheel prep package and all that heavy leather in the KR
, and I guess it explains the difference.
Funny thing is, I never had a truck before and only bought it to pull a camper. Suddenly, I have all kinds of need to haul heavy stuff and I wish I'd gotten the 350 with the 8' bed!
I didn't consider the difference in weight between the gas vs. diesel engine. Looking in other tables in the brochure, it looks like the diesel truck is about 1,000 pounds heavier. Add in the fifth wheel prep package and all that heavy leather in the KR
, and I guess it explains the difference.Funny thing is, I never had a truck before and only bought it to pull a camper. Suddenly, I have all kinds of need to haul heavy stuff and I wish I'd gotten the 350 with the 8' bed!
Fleet Mechanic
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My 2011 F550 has tire ratings of 15,000 rear, and 7,940 front. Total = 22,940#
It has spring & axle ratings of 14,706 rear, and 6,500# front. Total = 21,206#
The registered weight is 26,000# Illinois has no plates between 16,000 & 26,000#
The factory GVW is 19,500#. This is the amount It can legally weigh. MAX 19,500.
It has spring & axle ratings of 14,706 rear, and 6,500# front. Total = 21,206#
The registered weight is 26,000# Illinois has no plates between 16,000 & 26,000#
The factory GVW is 19,500#. This is the amount It can legally weigh. MAX 19,500.
Fleet Mechanic
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All the extras that a KR truck comes with adds up. I'm sure the 6.2 is 100# lighter than the V10, which would explain the 1,000# difference between gas and diesel on a F250. Most people who buy the 250's use them for occasional hauling or bumper pull towing. Most people who haul lots of cargo, or pull gooseneck or 5th wheels use the 350's. Just like in my business, 450's are used more for repo style trucks, and 550's used more for rollbacks. Beautiful truck you have though!
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Not Maryland. But license restrictions still apply.
Hotshot
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Has anyone here ever been stopped and weighed in a personal F250/F350, SRW, pickup? Here in CA, weigh stations have signs out specifically forbidding pickups from entering the weigh stations. Unless you are obviously sagging from weight, you are not going to be checked in this state. I've never been weighed or even heard of anyone being weighed in a pickup in CA.
I don't believe in overloading our trucks, but I don't go around worrying about it either.
I don't believe in overloading our trucks, but I don't go around worrying about it either.
Fleet Mechanic
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The lowest rating number wins! Even if I am registered for 26,000, GVW 19,500, if I used tires that are only 18,000 gross that is what the truck enforcement would hold me to. They don't want you to exceed a single rating.
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Cargo Master
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From: Alberta, Canada
I just weighed my new 350 two days ago after installing all of the accessories I had bought for it. I scaled out at 7600 lbs with a full tank and myself and my two dogs in it. My GVWR is 11,300 and after taking off 220 for myself and the dogs gives me a payload of 3920. Recreational and private vehicles are not required here to go in and get scaled unless a cop sees something out of the ordinary and directs you to be scaled. Commercially registered vehicles over 10K are supposed to go in.
Fleet Mechanic
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Has anyone here ever been stopped and weighed in a personal F250/F350, SRW, pickup? Here in CA, weigh stations have signs out specifically forbidding pickups from entering the weigh stations. Unless you are obviously sagging from weight, you are not going to be checked in this state. I've never been weighed or even heard of anyone being weighed in a pickup in CA.
I don't believe in overloading our trucks, but I don't go around worrying about it either.
I don't believe in overloading our trucks, but I don't go around worrying about it either.
Hotshot
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From: Whittier, CA
Is that the Ticket Master guy we saw on the news a couple of days ago? I know he was an IL cop.
In CA, we don't have the option of registering pickups at various GVWR. They are what they are. The CHP here pretty much ignores pickups WRT weight. But lately they have been cracking down on DRW trucks that are actually commercial. If you've got a camper or RV trailer, they don't bother.
In CA, we don't have the option of registering pickups at various GVWR. They are what they are. The CHP here pretty much ignores pickups WRT weight. But lately they have been cracking down on DRW trucks that are actually commercial. If you've got a camper or RV trailer, they don't bother.
Fleet Mechanic
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Is that the Ticket Master guy we saw on the news a couple of days ago? I know he was an IL cop.
In CA, we don't have the option of registering pickups at various GVWR. They are what they are. The CHP here pretty much ignores pickups WRT weight. But lately they have been cracking down on DRW trucks that are actually commercial. If you've got a camper or RV trailer, they don't bother.
In CA, we don't have the option of registering pickups at various GVWR. They are what they are. The CHP here pretty much ignores pickups WRT weight. But lately they have been cracking down on DRW trucks that are actually commercial. If you've got a camper or RV trailer, they don't bother.
Fleet Mechanic
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This truck is about 8,000#, on my truck that weighs about 12,500.
Cargo Master
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From: Stillwater, OK
If I had to be over on registration or GVW, I'd pick GVW & make sure the registration covers it at least.