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Old Jun 8, 2011 | 08:49 PM
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Reference Ford Coolant and test strips

Been reading about folks having coolant problems or getting messages on their cluster for checking coolant. Here's my take on all this.
1. My coolant is not orange, it's a light purple. At least looks that way.
2. Many say they can't get the test strips for checking it. Went to the Ford dealer and was told the same thing. The diesel mech said they use the strips from NAPA. You could buy the Rotunda ones, but much more money or have the dealer do all the work and spend even more. The mech said go buy them at NAPA, about 10-15 bucks, do it yourself and save a bundle.
3. I did the strip test and all checks out great. More curious than anything.
4. Does all this need to be done, who knows? With a 60K truck, why gamble. Thanks
 
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Old Jun 8, 2011 | 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by sandyc
Been reading about folks having coolant problems or getting messages on their cluster for checking coolant. Here's my take on all this.
1. My coolant is not orange, it's a light purple. At least looks that way.
2. Many say they can't get the test strips for checking it. Went to the Ford dealer and was told the same thing. The diesel mech said they use the strips from NAPA. You could buy the Rotunda ones, but much more money or have the dealer do all the work and spend even more. The mech said go buy them at NAPA, about 10-15 bucks, do it yourself and save a bundle.
3. I did the strip test and all checks out great. More curious than anything.
4. Does all this need to be done, who knows? With a 60K truck, why gamble. Thanks

Do you have a part number for the strips? There is a shelf life on the strips isn't there?
 
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Old Jun 8, 2011 | 10:00 PM
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Lexustbs posted the Rotunda info awhile back.
See if this URL will help you.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post10302454
 
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Old Jun 8, 2011 | 10:05 PM
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Do you have a part number for the strips? There is a shelf life on the strips isn't there?
The coolant strips need to be kept cool or they will be useless. I forget what the storage temp range is but there is not a lot of margin. If you have a hot garage in the summer, you should make some room in the fridge.
 
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Old Jun 8, 2011 | 11:06 PM
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Part #4106. Mine had an expiration of Feb 2013, just under two years. Store temps are below 90 degrees F, no minimum. The test is for freeze point, nitrate, and ph. All three test on mine showed good according to the color match, even though the coolant wasn't orange. I have no idea how that works.

I want to say I have had no problems with coolant and never got a message to indicate this. During an oil change today, my mechanic and I discussed the coolant thing and he suggested I should check it out with these strips, so I did. Now I'm stuck with a boat load of strips, which I'll probably never use again and a 15 dollar investment. Oh well, that's part of playing with a new truck.
 
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Old Jun 8, 2011 | 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by sandyc
Been reading about folks having coolant problems or getting messages on their cluster for checking coolant. Here's my take on all this.
Originally Posted by sandyc
1. My coolant is not orange, it's a light purple. At least looks that way.
It starts out orange, but is not all that uncommon for it to change color hues and is considered normal as clear and not all murky looking. Pinks and light reds are the most common hues.

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2. Many say they can't get the test strips for checking it. Went to the Ford dealer and was told the same thing. The diesel mech said they use the strips from NAPA. You could buy the Rotunda ones, but much more money or have the dealer do all the work and spend even more. The mech said go buy them at NAPA, about 10-15 bucks, do it yourself and save a bundle.
This is a bit scary... Yes you can get the strips needed to test for nitrite contamination and concentration level at NAPA, but what about the extra tests for corrosion inhibitor and reserve alkalinity? I have yet to see those available at NAPA.

My guess is many of these dealers are testing the 6.7L coolant in the same manner as they would for the 6.0L and 6.4L which is nitrite and concentration, but are not doing the tests for RA and corrosion inhibitor which are very important to the 6.7L.

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3. I did the strip test and all checks out great. More curious than anything.
Checked both systems?

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4. Does all this need to be done, who knows? With a 60K truck, why gamble. Thanks
Exactly... Why gamble...
 
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Old Jun 9, 2011 | 12:47 AM
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HD, we're not allowed on shop floors for obvious reasons so we have to trust our dealers.
If the cooling system isn't tested properly (this is scary) but the dealer documented that they did so and some part fails, are we covered if FoMoCo determines it was a cooling system issue?

Granted something probably won't fail until 101,000 miles...
 
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Old Jun 9, 2011 | 07:19 PM
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I thought that there should not be any nitrates in the orange coolant. Didn't one of the techs say thats how they can tell if the wrong coolant was put in was to see if there is Nitrates in the system? The kit I got from ford is not just a test strip buy also some other chemical's to test .
 
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Originally Posted by kper05
HD, we're not allowed on shop floors for obvious reasons so we have to trust our dealers.
If the cooling system isn't tested properly (this is scary) but the dealer documented that they did so and some part fails, are we covered if FoMoCo determines it was a cooling system issue?

Granted something probably won't fail until 101,000 miles...
Provided dealer documentation is kept I foresee no issues as far as warranty goes. However, if the coolant is a/the issue and it has not been tested properly, it should be the responsibility of the dealer to foot the repair bill rather then Ford...
 
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Old Jun 9, 2011 | 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by JReinert
I thought that there should not be any nitrates in the orange coolant. Didn't one of the techs say thats how they can tell if the wrong coolant was put in was to see if there is Nitrates in the system? The kit I got from ford is not just a test strip buy also some other chemical's to test .
Correct... Orange is nitrite free. If the presence of nitrites is detected during testing, the coolant would be considered contaminated...
 
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Originally Posted by PowerStrokeHD
Provided dealer documentation is kept I foresee no issues as far as warranty goes. However, if the coolant is a/the issue and it has not been tested properly, it should be the responsibility of the dealer to foot the repair bill rather then Ford...
While you and I agree (dealer at fault), that's probably something that will result in an arguement.
On a positive note, lets hope none of us need to deal with that!
 
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Old Jun 10, 2011 | 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by sandyc
Part #4106. Mine had an expiration of Feb 2013, just under two years. Store temps are below 90 degrees F, no minimum. The test is for freeze point, nitrate, and ph. All three test on mine showed good according to the color match, even though the coolant wasn't orange. I have no idea how that works.

I want to say I have had no problems with coolant and never got a message to indicate this. During an oil change today, my mechanic and I discussed the coolant thing and he suggested I should check it out with these strips, so I did. Now I'm stuck with a boat load of strips, which I'll probably never use again and a 15 dollar investment. Oh well, that's part of playing with a new truck.
Fifteen bucks for a lot of strips you'll not need is a whole lot better than the $37.50 the dealer charged me to use only ONE!
PM me and with your address and I'll send you a SASE and a couple of bucks for some of your unneeded strips!

jammer
 
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Old Jun 10, 2011 | 10:24 PM
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Fifteen bucks for a lot of strips you'll not need is a whole lot better than the $37.50 the dealer charged me to use only ONE!
PM me and with your address and I'll send you a SASE and a couple of bucks for some of your unneeded strips!

jammer
Same thing PM ur address.... I'll do the same
 
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