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Old Jun 7, 2011 | 12:50 PM
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Toyota P/S Conversion U Joint Issue

hey guys, my u joint to attatch the steering gear to the shaft has a set screw hole for the steering gear side but not set screw hole for the shaft side? Is this ormal?..do I just drill a hole through the u joint and the shaft and pin it? There are 2 small screws on each side but they will not secure the shaft at all...Any help is welcome..Thanx
 
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Old Jun 7, 2011 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by canadian_diesel1964
There are 2 small screws on each side but they will not secure the shaft at all.
Are the shafts (and the u-joint) splined or rectangular shafting, rather then just plain round with no “drive” feature? The set screws are just to hold splined or double D shafts in place, not to transfer the torque with.

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Old Jun 7, 2011 | 03:09 PM
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The Steering Gear side of the U Joint is splined and has a set screw threaded area ...the other half does not
 
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Old Jun 7, 2011 | 04:36 PM
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If you are talking about the shaft on the box, it has a 1/2 or more flat space between in the center of the shaft, when tightened the set screw just prevent the U-joint from pulling back over the splines. That's how mine is and I've had it on since 1994.
 
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Old Jun 7, 2011 | 05:00 PM
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Yes thank you..I called the shop and they said to weld it and or pin it on the shaft side..the gear side is all good thank you guys!!!
 
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Old Jun 7, 2011 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by canadian_diesel1964
I called the shop and they said to weld it
To the best of my knowledge (no comment required) it is against the Motor Vehicle code of all provinces to have any welds on steering parts, and will for that reason fail an inspection.
 
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Old Jun 7, 2011 | 07:37 PM
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Thank you for that...if its welded and pinned would it still fail do you think? I am going to ask a buddy of mine as well..hes a licensed mechanic...I know welding on cast steering components is absolutely a no no...I have drilled through it and have a bolt(grade 8) in for now till I get a suitable Pin..I also welded it ...I think this may be a different application but will ask him and let you guys know...I know...I wasted the cash on the ujoint...dont weld it!!!
 
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Old Jun 8, 2011 | 01:35 AM
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they're meant to be welded to the stock steering tube, which mine was. I didn't like it welded and it was too short anyhow. sadly enough if i can't get these headers to work right i might have to ditch the power steering set-up.
 
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Old Jun 11, 2011 | 10:26 PM
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I don't understand what the difference is if the steering shaft is welded...? Your driveshaft is welded...right? The steel ends are welded to the steel tube and that thing sees WAY more abuse than the steering shaft ever will. As long as you get good penetration and weld on clean surfaces, you'll be just fine. Pretty looking welds don't always mean they are penetrating worth a darn...
 
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Old Jun 12, 2011 | 05:21 AM
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I took it to the local expert mechanic who does safeties and he said its more than safe and fine!!
 
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I ran mine for about 10 years with the original shaft welded to a borgenson joint; then I switched to a tilt column, I never had any issues with it.
 
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Old Jun 13, 2011 | 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Dano78
I don't understand what the difference is if the steering shaft is welded...? Your driveshaft is welded...right? The steel ends are welded to the steel tube and that thing sees WAY more abuse than the steering shaft ever will. As long as you get good penetration and weld on clean surfaces, you'll be just fine. Pretty looking welds don't always mean they are penetrating worth a darn...
1. if your driveshaft drops out it's not likely to kill someone as if your steering column became unhooked.
2. you can't always see imperfections in the weld with the naked eye
 
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by 1oldtimer
1. if your driveshaft drops out it's not likely to kill someone as if your steering column became unhooked.
2. you can't always see imperfections in the weld with the naked eye
True, but you can tell how good of a penetration you've got by your heat signature you leave behind around the weld. Nothing is 100% guaranteed unless you spend the $$$ and have it professionally tested.
 
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 10:49 PM
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True, but you can tell how good of a penetration you've got by your heat signature you leave behind around the weld. Nothing is 100% guaranteed unless you spend the $$$ and have it professionally tested.
exactly and some peoples skills aren't up to the challenge ........truthfully I'm not 100% I would trust mine. I'm just saying welding your steering shaft together is something not to be taken lightly.
 
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