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2nd owner of a 2008 f350 king ranch and i have plans of removing the DPF and would like your opinions on the favorite tuner that will change on the fly, compensate for removal of the DPF, option the egr inop, and smokeless tune for econ towing and performance settings.
Ive selected a off road 5" turbo back exaust and found a egr block off kit my uses are for every day driving i'm getting 14.8mpg on my drive on the back roads. and i would like to strip that 6.4 of the emissions standards that make that fuel mileage instead of the 24mpg my friend is getting with his 2006.
2006 was a completely different truck and engine. Late 6.0's did get good mileage but you won't be seeing 24 out of the 6.4 unless you're driving down hill with a tail wind. I run the Spartan and could not be happier with the result. It's not change on the fly and I definately DON'T get 24mpg but it is much better than stock and the power increases were unbelievable. I would suggest staying away from the "tune on the fly" models because to really tune these trucks properly you want something that is going to take more time and do it properly. I've heard stories of guys running those tuners and dropping trannies because they literally change tunes while driving and it's very hard on all the components. In the end I would rather wait 15-20min to change tunes and know that it's done properly and won't damage this very expensive drive train. Good Luck
2006 was a completely different truck and engine. Late 6.0's did get good mileage but you won't be seeing 24 out of the 6.4 unless you're driving down hill with a tail wind and engine off!. I run the Spartan and could not be happier with the result. It's not change on the fly and I definately DON'T get 24mpg but it is much better than stock and the power increases were unbelievable. I would suggest staying away from the "tune on the fly" models because to really tune these trucks properly you want something that is going to take more time and do it properly. I've heard stories of guys running those tuners and dropping trannies because they literally change tunes while driving and it's very hard on all the components. In the end I would rather wait 15-20min to change tunes and know that it's done properly and won't damage this very expensive drive train. Good Luck
i'll keep looking i'd perfer the switch on the fly but i like the options of the spartan, does the spartan have completely smoke free tune, with the exception of the 350hp
how much does the spartan cost?
and just how nit picky is the process of switching from tune to tune
i'll keep looking i'd perfer the switch on the fly but i like the options of the spartan, does the spartan have completely smoke free tune, with the exception of the 350hp
how much does the spartan cost?
and just how nit picky is the process of switching from tune to tune
Changing tunes requires you to hit 3 buttons and then wait 15-20min. Price will depend and you should give them a call for current pricing. Exhaust noise never changed on my truck at all when your in the cab. All tunes are virtually smoke free until you really lay into the throttle, then you'll see some smoke regardless of the tune you're running. These are oil burners and they will smoke with no dpf and WOT, that can't be helped.
H&S will switch tunes on the fly and all their tunes are free. Their tuners will work with DPF on or off you choose which when you do the install. I have the XRT pro and love it. JMO
Don't run EGR block off plates; the higher HP tunes can cause enough backpressure to begin with an blocking off the EGR doesn't help. Depending on which tuner and tune you use the EGR valve will either be shut or cycled open and shut anyway...
Spartan's the way to go; largest selection of tunes, DPF on and deleted tuning and a great display/gauge.
Smokeless tunes? Smoke is from overfueling, which is much easier to do on the higher HP tunes than the lower tunes, all things being equal. You'll only get it when you give it more throttle/fuel than it can use. You can block out the sun by flat footing it from a dead stop on Spartan's 275HP tune, or, just roll on the throttle and leave just as hard and fast with barely a haze...
I NEVER understood the attraction with switching on the fly, other than for a tuner to brag that their unit does it and others do not. You want to limit your power output, apply less skinny pedal. It's not like a 15K pound trailer is going to sneak up on you and hook itself up to your truck either, so retuning for such an occasion shouldn't be either a big deal or surprise.
I NEVER understood the attraction with switching on the fly, other than for a tuner to brag that their unit does it and others do not. You want to limit your power output, apply less skinny pedal. It's not like a 15K pound trailer is going to sneak up on you and hook itself up to your truck either, so retuning for such an occasion shouldn't be either a big deal or surprise.
Because I'm too impatient to wait 15-20 minutes just to retune my truck! I like to "daily drive" in my 345 tune, or somewhere close to it. But I tow in the 75 or 150, and it may be I need to haul something for the neighbor or will haul bales all day long, then drive home and be done for a few days, then do some more hauling. I could be on the road halfway home instead of sitting waiting for the tune to download. I had "shift on the fly" tunes on my old truck, and yea I'm not flipping tunes while cruising down the road, but I'm hooked to a trailer and on the road 20 miles with it where now I'm sitting waiting for it to finish downloading.
As nice as having a tuned truck without the emissions "stuff" is, it's worth waiting for the tunes. I like my KEM tunes, able to get the shifts like I want them; when I'm in tow/haul mode, I'm locked out of 5th gear which makes it pull great when I get to certain parts of the country around here, instead of lugging in 5th, then dropping a couple gears to pull the hill and back and forth.
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