Well folks, we got a weekend out of the spewing E4OD in our 1996 rig below.

Now, the E4OD is done for, NO FORWARD GEARS.

So.... 10 tons

What do ya do?

Get a junk yard tranny in there fast so we can RV right away? What tranny years years will fit like a glove? 1995? 1997? C6?

and then take our current case and have it rebuilt with all the good stuff???

What do ya do????

Thanks for all your tips?

 

Junkyard tranny will get you home and thats about it. Rebuilding yours is your best bet!

 

Just have the salvage yard at Joplin Mo. ship you another 1996 E4OD for your rig.

 

get rid of the E40D and get a 5spd ZF behind that motorhome... the granny low will do you some good! But if your stranded at the beach doing a complete swap to a 5spd manual is probably not a good option... Even though it's probably the best !

The E40D (4spd), AOD (4spd), and C6 (bullet proof 3spd but uses more gas) will all work. You have to stay with the same bolt pattern you have... IE: the big block (460/7.3L diesel), or the small block (300, 302, 351w) bolt pattern. The problem is going to be your computer. The E40D is run by a computer to shift and I don't think you can just bolt a C6 (non-computer controled) in b/c there will be no signal to the computer. I know some guys have used a resistor to trick the computer into thinking the E40D is still in the vehicle and then put a C6 or ZF transmission in.

Since you have a 96 E40D most of the newer upgrades are already there... If you had a 93 E40D there would have been lots of new upgrades to do to make the E40D more reliable. Here's a thread that talks about the E40D upgrades... I know a shift kit is a popular option to help the transmission shift point seem less sluggish...

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/9...l?#post9127046

Be forewarned the E40D is no C6 when it comes to cost on rebuilds. I have noticed the average rebuild for a E40D is around $1700 from the prices I've seen on here from other users that have gotten rebuilds and quotes for rebuilds (proper rebuilds that is). A C6 on the other had is simpler to rebuild yourself for a few hundred bucks...

IF you get a salvage yard tranny I would make sure not to get one older than a 95... they won't have the newer upgrades...

 

nstueve,

Have you ever seen a manual transmission in an F53?
Or anybody ever try to put one in an F53?
Have you ever seen a C6, 5spd ZF or an AOD with an Emergency brake on them?
Last I heard the 460 and the 7.3L diesel had different bolt patterns.

I think he had better say with a E4OD from a salvage yard Joplin, Mo.
I know of no other salvage yard that would have one other than maybe the one in Phoenix, Az.

 

easy there big guy... A.) I haven't worked on a F53 chassis so no I wouldn't know about the specifics.

B.) Where there is a will there is a way... If you wanted a 5spd in that camper, I'm sure someone would figure a way to do it. I personally wouldn't want a wonky E40D if I could avoid it. People can talk them up and say they are the best tranny ever after a solid rebuild... But I'd rather have a solid performing transmission from the beginning, ie C6. And I just figured before Ford made the E40D they needed something for larger chassis like the C6...???

C.) Does it look like I have a 7.3 or 460 listed below... I was just recalling what I have read on here about guys using a BB ZF if they had a 7.3 or 460... Didn't know they had different bolt pattern for each... Thanks for letting me know...

D.) As for the ebrake: I've been under a Itaska, Winnebago, and Dodge camper. All their ebrakes had NOTHING to do with the transmission or drive line. They ran similar "cable to drum" style break that our trucks have. Again thanks for letting me know.

E.) I was just trying to help and add extra information that I thought was realivent... There has to be another transmission available for the F53 body. The E40D rebuild or JY is probably the best option for him... IF he has the time to look around for extra options I was just giving some extra ideas to think about...

 

Sorry but I did not see were anything you said applied to the F53.

Emergency brake drum of a F53 E4OD:


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Just for my own edumacation... That drive line break looks like it is attached to the rear of the transmission alot like a transfer case almost... Does that mean it's possible to bolt another transmission to that drum break system or is the F53 E40D the sole transmission that has the ability to bolt to that break system? Just seems like Ford would use the 4x4 transmission and bolt a driveline drum break instead of designing a different tail housing to the E40D...

Just trying to understand what is going on in the picture better so I'll be more informed about the F53 chassis and drive line, should it come up again at a later date...

PS: Thinking outside the box here but if you converted to 4 wheel disk breaks on a 3/4 or 1ton (ie the sterling 10.25 kit from ruff stuff) could you put a F53 driveline break behind a ZF, C6, E40D???? My 88 f250 is dieing to relieve herself of the old rear drums for a set of disks. The only problem that everyone runs into is not having parking break if you have a 5spd. just wondering if that F53 driveline break would be the answer we've been looking for?????

 

The F53 does have 4 wheel disk brakes.
Yes I am sure the Brake, Parking, Transmission-Mounted bolts onto the E4OD the same as the Extension Housing for the transfer case does and uses the same E4OD case.
What I do not know is if the output shaft from the E4OD is the same for the Brake, Parking, Transmission-Mounted as for the Extension Housing for the transfer case.

Here is a diagram of a 1996 Super Duty with it mounted on the E4OD:



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I guess looking at that you probably could do a drive line break on a 2wd but how the heck would it work with a transfer case and parking break in there? Suppose it wouldn't...???

 

Can't do all the updates and necessary hard parts for less than $2800.00

 

thanks for all your help!

we ended up finding one on Craigs List for $300, works great!

for those who follow

get new torque converter to fly wheel bolts from Ford ($10 for 4)
wratchet strap the tranny to the tranny jack
get a new pan gasket & filter
get a new inline filter
4 gallons of trans fluid
put 2 quarts in the Torque Converter
learn how to seat the Torque Converter (EASY, YET VERY IMPORTANT)

The bolts & fittings are Ford Tough, but make sure your air gun is on them tight to save the bolt/fitting heads

back to the good life with the 10 ton beast