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Old May 24, 2011 | 01:30 PM
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truck drives bad

My truck seems to dart when you hit a bump or when you are moveing left of right but staying in the same lane. What I tring to say is that if I want to move the truck 12 inches to the right and stay in my same lane, if I turn the wheels that way the truck slow starts to go that way and then takes off and you have to jerk it back. It didn't drive like this 10 years ago...it also didn't drive like that last year.



So far I have replace the sway bar links and bushings, shocks, ball joints, drag link, gear box and power steerng pump. Every thing seem to help a little but nothing fixes it. The axle joints were ok as were the tie rod ends. The truck has also been alligned twice and has new tires on it.



right now the allignment is

front

camber .2 .3

caster 3.1 2.8

Toe .03 .01



total toe .04

steer ahead .01



rear

camber -.03 .0

toe .17 -.28

total toe -.11

thrust angle .22





Does anyone have any idea what to try?



The second allignment shop thought the gear box needed adjusted. It was a rebuilt read head box, but they didn't mess with it.


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Old May 24, 2011 | 02:11 PM
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I'm experiencing something very similar right now. I just put new tires on the truck Thursday. With them aired up to 70 psi (sidewall max psi is 65...thanks Discount Tire) the truck darted all over the place. I lowered all 4 tires and that helped. I then replaced my 230k+ mile tie rods and had it aligned and that helped quite a bit. Today I'm going to adjust the steering box and see if that takes the rest of it out.
 
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Old May 24, 2011 | 02:16 PM
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Good luck I've been tring to get it since December.
 
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Old May 25, 2011 | 01:37 PM
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have yous checked your tract bar is tight? and if the bushings are still good? i installed a 1.5" level spring in the front and i installed a Zone adjustible tract bar in my 2004 F-350 it had 62k at the time and the factory tract bar bushings were SHOT! they were all dry rotted and crumbling. also the bolt at the frame was very loose compared to the one at the axle. i think its 450ftlb's i believe
 
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Old May 25, 2011 | 01:39 PM
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The track bar is tight and the bushing look good. maybe I should take it lose and check the bushings better?
 
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Old May 25, 2011 | 04:32 PM
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Sounds like you have two issues. One seems to be bump steer and the other is steering stiction.

For the bump steer is your truck lifted? For the stiction when was the ball joints last replaced or checked?

Edit: I see you replaced the ball joints. I would jack the truck up, remove the tires, and remove the tie rod from one side. Check that side to make sure the knuckle turns freely from through the complete range of motions. If that side is good go to the other side and remove the tie rod. Check that the knuckle on this side moves freely.
 
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Old May 25, 2011 | 04:35 PM
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The truck is not lifted. The balljoints were new in December and did the recall torque test on them a couple weeks ago (they passed).
 
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Old May 25, 2011 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by daveboys
. What I tring to say is that if I want to move the truck 12 inches to the right and stay in my same lane, if I turn the wheels that way the truck slow starts to go that way and then takes off and you have to jerk it back.


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That is how I would describe the behavior of a vehicle with excess toe in OR a lot of slop in steering mechanisms and linkage.

So everything measures just dandy while truck sitting still, but once a tire is side loaded, something shifts.

I would start by double checking tie rod ends, drag links, steering box. Looking for excess play or slop somewhere.
 
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